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Then you're a bit of a silly billy then aren't you :p Given the availability of wifi and cloud storage USB is a rather clunky means of moving documents around now. It's one of the reasons why tablets are being used more, and the reason why an iPad has no need for a USB port.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Okay, let's say I'm in a far away village, in the middle of a jungle, on top of a mountain or in the middle of the Sahara desert, pretty much guaranteed no wifi or cloud storage, and I REALLY wanna transfer a file from someone else's USB memory stick to my iPad.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Let's say I'm out of wifi and 3G zone, and I wanna download a 4 GB file off of cloud storage. How many days would I have to wait?
A pretty useless $600 toy, isn't it?
No. Works well for me for the 20, and more, reasons I listed earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
As you appear to work in remote villages, jungles and deserts I can see why a USB port may be essential for your needs.
that would be my main moan if I were ever to succumb to the temptation of getting an iPad (or getting my wife an iPad... I'm married you know :laugh: ) for surfing or media watching just because it IS cool and I can.
On the other hand, I thought you could get some sort of USB adapter?
Yeah, not that it's been an industry standard on every computer, and anything related to computers, for the last 15 years, it's too much usability for the iPad.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
God forbid I'm flying on a long-haul flight and my friend has a movie on his ancient doggone USB stick that I would want to watch. Hmm, fire up the laptop, copy the movie there first, then attach the iPad with the fancy white connector cable, phew, finally!
Apple probably would add $200 more for a USB port in next year's iPad.
From the article:Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
:laugh:Quote:
Don’t you worry about the iPad lacking an SD card slot and USB port. Apple has you covered with adapters! How nice of Lord Jobs. Instead of building in two industry standards, users are forced to buy extra items with their new iPad. It’s not like the these standards are large and would take away from the oh-so-important design.
LOL, two "articles" written by Apple fanboys are your solid facts? :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Industry magazines again have the same thing, opinions. Where are the cold hard facts with market data research showing a pie chart that yes, in fact Macs are used more by graphic designers? And no, I'm not talking about pseudo-artsy hipsters saying with a dopey face "Dude, I'm creative, I use a Mac."
Did you read my post a couple of posts ago as a reply to airshifter? I've been working as a web/graphic designer and video editor for the past 8+ years, and in this tenure have worked for print and media publishing companies in India, USA, UK and France. While some did have Mac as options mainly for video editing on Final Cut Pro, the majority had PCs for pretty much everything else.
Reason? A good quality Mac costs a fortune, easily $2000 +. For that money, you can build a MUCH powerful PC. And what do design software suites like Adobe CS need? Not a better looking computer, not a slicker OS, but better hardware to take care of rendering needs. In India it is easier and cheaper to hire system and network maintenance guys, who know what they're doing, and so PCs hardly ever have any problems. That's also why a lot of online-offshore graphic design companies are able to keep their rates low and see a huge number of clients from all over the world.
Anyway, not that this going around in circles isn't fun, like you said, the GP pre-show has started. Lewis and McLaren for the win!
long haul flights (always at least business class so with plenty of in flight movies I'm not interested in lol) and sitting around in airports would be my main use for an iPad and don't worry, I would make sure to get my collection transferred beforehand.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Still doesn't make the lack of a bog standard USB port any more defensible lol.
From the article:
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So it seems that the iPad is designed to milk every last penny out of buyers. You see, having a flush-mounted SD card slot would allow consumers to get away with buying the 16GB model and increasing the storage themselves. That’s clearly not in Apple’s financial favor, but it’s not like anyone expected Apple to look out for the buyer anyway. This is a dealbreaker for me.
Can I just mention that Siri is a useless pile of complete crap?
Yes, you can. In FACT, you just did :p
That doesn't mean it has to be the standard for the next 15yrs, particularly given the increasing rate at which technology advances.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Your're clearly happy with what you have, and see no need to change. Good for you :up: Enjoy the GP :)
I'm with you there. Never use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Agreed. Although Apple can be forgiven for this, as voice recognition AI still has years of development to go before it can get even half decent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
This unrealistic ad doesn't help either:
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It works perfectly to create hype though.
I find the fighting over which is best just completely pointless. Not to mention branding people who buy a brand you don't like as 'snobs' or 'idiots'. It's a freaking PHONE ffs.
Personally I have an iPhone. I'm well aware of its limitations, I'm well aware of the price I paid. But it works well for me. You got a problem with that? Well that's your problem not mine.
Now, the race is about to start. It's Valencia so I should be able to catch up on some sleep.
wakey wakey ! http://i46.tinypic.com/hv9ul3.gif :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark
:laugh: nice one there henners. What I have found over the last few pages is that you're SURELY not biased towards Apple in any way. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
The pictures that I posted were of course opinions, and I never claimed those to be a FACT as you claimed Macs to be the favorite for graphic designers in your post as a FACT. A pointer for the future, FACTS are not backed up with articles by Apple fanboys on ehow.com or else it completely devalues the point you're trying to make and provides such golden gems of ultimate stupidity as these.
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Quoted from your first article Why Are Macs Better for Graphic Design? | eHow.com
the Mac operating system is written in a different programming language than Windows, making it less succeptible to viruses, spyware and other security issues.
While a pretty machine doesn't affect performance, it looks much better in your home office.
That has to be the stupidest article I have read in a long time. The "expert" could have at least used the spell checker on his amazing Mac to get the spelling of susceptible right. Thanks for the entertainment henners.
I might have looked over that part, as half my concentration on the pre-race show (what a disaster BTW). But well, you don't bring eHow articles or opinions to backup what you claim to be facts. I have worked at or visited over a dozen media houses, and never have I seen Macs dominating. There's usually a solitary Mac in the video editor's office, for FCP, and that's it. The way you go gaga over Macs as the first choice for graphic designers, a noob would imagine every desk in a media publishing company would have a Mac. Not so in reality mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I don't have a problem with what you or whoever else buys. Well, anyway it was no longer about the phones, more about Apple as a whole and their overpriced, under-performing products.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I'm still surprised nobody in this thread has been able to provide a logical justification for the price disparity between these two products:
MacBook Pro - $1795
DELL XPS - $960
The Macbook Pro has inferior hardware and is $800 more expensive. According to Apple fans here, is this completely OKAY?
Too bad about your sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Another thing I don't understand is people harping on about PCs getting infected or hard drives crashing.
Being perfectly honest, I have not had any such problems in the last 6 years. I have a Windows 7 installation with Avast Internet Security running trouble free since 2010. How people manage to get infected or crash their hard drivers, I have NO idea. Just don't click on shady stuff, don't download anything from shady websites or install suspicious looking software! All you've got to do is to let the Antivirus be up-to-date, and even if you insert an infected USB memory stick, it will block it!
This PC, along with my laptop, has also traveled about 10 to 12,000 kilometers around the world on an airplane. That ought to destroy the hard drive in pieces as some of the guys have been talking about, but it's been working absolutely fine.
This quad core PC that I built in 2010 (which also has an Asus Xonar 7.1 sound card) was about a $1000 cheaper than a comparable Mac. My Dell laptop cost 600 euros and a comparable Macbook Pro or Air was three times the price. That's about $2000 saved by not falling for Apple's gimmick. Think about how much more you can do with that 2 grand!
yep, I could buy a few iPads with that :bandit:Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Are you actually saying that now USB is too old? 3.0 just released!Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
No matter where technology goes, physical storage will always hold the biggest importance over remote storage, unless there's an actual cloud hovering over your head with all your data.
Cloud storage is all good until there's an outage. Then you're screwed if all your important files are on a "cloud" and there's a thunderstorm outside.
:rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
BTW, congrats on Alonso's win. :mad:
cheers cap'n :up:
Well then, for those two articles, I can show you a thousand articles showing why PC is better than Mac in every area possible. You can add the 10-15 pictures in this thread to that as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Now, I'm quite bored of this back and forth, if you and other Apple fans on here would just answer my earlier question below, that'd be great:
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Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
I'm face timing with my son in Switzerland.
Wifi to wifi, no extra charges, great picture quality, way cool!
*notice I'm not saying my face time is better and cheaper than what your phone offers, I'm just expressing my satisfaction and enthusiasm for this cool technology feature.
:)
Sent from my iPhone
Okay, so $800 extra for a laptop of inferior spec is fine with you, as long as it's an Apple Macbook. Okay, got it. I guess this is where the discussion ends.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I would quite like to enjoy my Sunday evening now after the crap race. Ta ta to you too. :wave: :)
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net...93_220x145.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
Good to know you're enjoying some good weekend time with your son race. :up:
But video-calling has been working on every half-decent computer, laptop for the last decade, and smartphones (Apple or Android) over the last several years, and there have been quite a few apps pretty handy for it, especially Skype's own app.
Before I log-off, thought to put some other funny stuff that I came across. :p
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net...15486_460s.jpg
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net...67395_700b.jpg
And the point of laughing at other peoples purchase choices is?
None.
Unless it's a Fiat 500 :erm: :arrows: :andrea: :p
If you feel bad about your purchase, that's your problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I'm laughing at jokes made on Apple. :)
You gotta admit, they are quite funny. :D
Crap car. Can get more horsepower with lesser money in other cars. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
Just like 90% of the Apple products. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Well, I see you people are having a fun fiesta around here! :D
For all the stick that CaptainRaiden is getting, and let's be honest I would like to bash him a bit too, he is pretty much spot on about Apple products.
Don't get me (completely) wrong, the Apple products are doing what they are meant to do which is make some people feel happy with their new toys that they can use to phone, surf the internet ( - flash based sites), watch some vids and pics, read the news and oh well that's pretty much all you can do with an apple product without losing time compared to other tools that are available and are also cheaper.
I had to LOL pretty loud when Arrows kept mentioning the use of cloud instead of USB, I take it he doesn't leave home often.
How sweet. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
To be clear, I'm not laughing at Apple customers, just Apple and their ridiculous marketing. As you can see, I didn't make those funny pics. A lot of other people did and the internet is full of such Apple jokes, and so a mass proportion of the crowd finds them ridiculous. I'm just posting them here for fun. No need to get touchy about it, unless it makes you look at your iPad in a different way. :p
Hey henners, did you have your iWater today? :p
Thanks ioan. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
IMO cloud storage is the future, but its practicality makes sense only in a much, MUCH distant future. And regardless of how far ahead we go into the future, it will always remain a secondary option and can never replace physical storage completely, UNLESS you have standard wi-fi of at least 300-500 MBPS across the country at every corner and at every remote place, which to implement will take decades, especially in the not-so-rich countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Apple and some other companies have hyped it up very well, and a lot of people have bought into the idea without thinking about some key things:
1. It is not secure. Hackers will have a field day with people's personal files.
2. It is fine for small documents, but you're screwed if you have to download anything bigger than a few 100 MBs outside the wi-fi or 3G zone.
3. It would to have be extremely robust and reliable, meaning no internet outages pretty much ever, just like physical storage.
4. At this moment, it is expensive, slow AND unreliable.
So, yes, premium products like the iPad, for $600, needs to have the most basic industry standard, and that is a simple USB port and hell, even an HDMI port.
Well, if I'm paying $800 more for inferior hardware, they better not be rubbish, make my breakfast, clean my shoes AND drive me to work!Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Unfortunately they do none of that. :p
Not in my experience. If you need a tablet with a USB port then the Microsoft Surface should suit your needs at (it is rumoured) between $599-$999.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Still a better tablet than iPad. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I believe henners you misread it wrong. Because their base model already has a USB port AND an HDMI port, which would retail between $550 to $600, similar to the entry level iPad at 16 GB, it also has a similar mobile processor. The difference is the Surface has double the capacity at 32 GB. Oh, and surprise surprise! It also has a MicroSD slot (another huge limitation of Apple products), so you can slide in a 64 GB microSD card and get the capacity up to 96 GB. 96 GB on a tablet for $600!! Apple doesn't get it. :p
For the $999 model (called Surface Pro), you get a much faster Intel Core i5 processor, 128 GB capacity (expandable to 192 GB) of course, Windows 8, USB 3.0 and a Minidisplay port (which you actually only get on a $1000 more expensive Macbook pro), which is amazing value for money considering how less you get from the similarly priced iPad 64GB version. :) Source: Amazon.com
Nope, never experienced that as being a limitation either :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Microsoft Surface vs. iPad: 10 Reasons to Ditch Apple`s Tablet - Mobile and Wireless - News & Reviews - eWeek.com
Microsoft Surface Vs iPad: 5 Reasons Why You Should Ditch Apple - iTech Post
Finally a proper tablet, which can be called a netbook or even a notebook alternative.