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Originally Posted by Tarmac Tommy
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Maybe you can post a link to the a link to the full story?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmac Tommy
Tomi, he can't because it's the other way round.
Citroën expressed some real interest for Meeke as for the UK market, the main issue was, again, down to a question of money and that's why it failed despite both sides efforts. Meeke certainly won't deny it.
And as far as rumors go, it is said that the UK motorsport body wasn't that much intesrested. Even heard Fréquelin in an interview (after some testing with Meeke) saying he was surprised and disapointed at how the project got them bored...
Don't always blame the manufacturer... Loeb, Ogier, Sordo, the Finns and many others woulnd't have made it to the WRC, hadn't they been helped by someone in their own countries, whether the motorsport body, managers, private companies, etc.
A sad state of affairs for the sport in the UK. We often hear that the UK is a big market for the WRC, but in reality, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
Looks like a wolfshirt. NICE!Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
Exactly...Citroen has a big presence in the UK so Meeke would be a great choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
He's also far better than the likes of Duval, PG etc.
So this means, that you have to be from a country that sells a lot of Citröens or Euro Fords, to make it in the WRC. .
The Finns must be here on borrowed time then? What about Swede's, Norwegians, Danish, Dutch, Icelandics, Russians, Americans, Australians, + + + +. .
Or if you're really lucky to have insanely much money and maybe not much talent..or if you're a really really really good talent,, that also is a really good sponsorhunter..
No not at all merely that Meeke is both talented (IMO faster than everyone aside from Loeb, Ogier and maybe Hirvonen on a good day) and makes sense from a marketing perspective. Peugeot runs TV and print adverts in the UK with him in them.
The other way around? Please explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
I think you're confusing various instances over the years where Meeke's future was discussed and yes, money was an issue. Citroen have always had an interest in him and he continues to test for them in R3 and WRC (C4 in the past and now DS3).
Quesnel did say to Meeke that if he was French things would be rather different.
As for no support from UK motorsport bodies, what's new.
It sure makes sense, however before joining in a full WRC program he needs some extra support and that's where a national governing body can help.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
By the way, Quesnel or anyone else at Citroën never said his nationality was an issue, on the full contrary. But some naives still want to believe that silly rumor and blame it on others in the vaccuum of local manufacturers, go figure... :s tare:
Strangely enough a person who was involved in the conversation with Quesnel and Meeke would disagree with you. But, hey, you know better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
Since this is PSWRT thread i will make it short.
I humbly know a little on the matter.
Don't get affected by words out of the context :) . Quesnel, Citroën and PSA actually want Meeke.
The "if you were French" (what actually was said was something akin to - "things would be easier if you were French") comment was relevant to the situation at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
Please don't call others naive no matter how humble you consider yourself.
Wanting a driver is of little importance, doing something about it is what matters. But that may change.
"Things would be easier if you were French", do you really need a translation in the context ? : you would be helped by french local companies and the FFSA (French Federation), no nationality discrimination with that.
More discussion ? let's go pm :) .
PMs? Not worth it, I'm getting bored :) Why would I need a translation? I was always aware of the implications. I've just realised where you thought I was coming from! You thought I simply supposed that because Meeke was not French that that was the only reason, ie discrimination. I think most were aware of why Quesnel made the statement. Anyway, as I said things may develop more favourably soon. Be good if we get more competitive drivers in the WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
Pm was only meant to be courteous toward the thread :p .Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Seriously, i agree, and with the new format attracting more manufacturers, it could be of some real advantage to him.
Speed + reliability and his "value" should raise rapidly.
this is a onboard video from my friends Crosskart fron this weekends round of the Norwegian Championship in Crosskart..
See if you recognize the guy celbrating his win in the end :D ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrmCmP-ofKA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUAF_RnDiqEQuote:
Originally Posted by Koppomsbo
spectators view..
After listening to Oliver Quesnel on WRRadio today, it sounded like he is allready started to make up excuses if Loeb did'nt win or catch Solberg. And the excuse was that Hirvonen was out and that there was nothing more to risk. manu-points was the most important.. Well.. that make me just wanna puke..
No point in driving any more stages then...
well he has a point...Loeb has o reason to push and take unnecessary risks in such a dangerous event...but the best of all is not to draw conclusions that early in the rally. Many things can change and happen to everyone here so no reason to declare winners and losers that early.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFL
Yeah, but if any other then Loeb wins, we know the excuse.. It's allready made..
I guess it's no point in watching it.. ? lol
But I hope Loeb will fight to win.
When Loeb was here in one rallyshow last year he did an interview for one TV talk show. It wasn't all about rally but when he was asked if he feels scared sometimes when driving, he said: "Yes, in Finland I do."
Quote Marcus Grönholm: Bravery is everything in Finland
are we seeing the last of p solberg in wrc this year,no team is proposing him not even rumours to suggest any possibilites :( :mad:
I think Sordo and Kimi's future is vital to determine Petter's future. If either of them leave Citroen, then surely Petter is next in line. Malcolm Wilson is also stupid if he doesn't offer him a seat in the second team at least - he's far better than Henning and Wilson, and is as good as Mikko and JML in my view.
LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
what makes you think he is next in line for citroen ? because he bought a car from them ? Sordo is under contract...Kimi will be replaced by another paying driver and same goes for Henning...in other words if solberg wants to drive he has to pay. If solberg puts his hand in his pocket once more he could even be works driver depending how deep he searches inside the pocket.
The days that Solberg is going to get payed to drive are over.
i dont see sordo leaving citroen at moment as hes also facing the same dilema with no team intrested in him apart from maybe vw in late 2012,as with kimi he still wants to prove something in wrc b4 he heads back to F1,mini is already crowded with potential drivers fighting for the seats,its really a pity for the sport. :o
I am pretty sure Petter would not drive for anyone else. He has fought too hard to get to where he is to step into a works team. The way he has talked and all the people who have sacrificed to get him up and going, would be good for Petter, but a massive kick in the balls for those who keep the team running.
I don't think Petter will have any second thoughts about putting down the team. He has had a couple comments the last rallies about "what he could do if they get in a factory team", so he really seems to want that. At the moment he seems not in a position to take risks that can wreck his car, which he needs to take to get any better results. But he will not do it for nothing; He wants a competitive car obviously.
I never said he'd be a payed driver, but surely if Petter approached either team next year then they would be foolish to reject him.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Back from Finland and once again...I've enjoyed every single pass of Petter :D pity he didn't finished on podium, he deserved it :up:
What is the main reason that he lost this unique change to finally win again? I mean, he was closest to Hirvonen when he roled, Solberg had the best change of his post -Subaru life to win again. Why did he lost so much time? car? roadposition? mentaly unwilling to go 101%??
Dont you think he has been approaching the teams every year? Maybe the teams dont find any use of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Or laptopguys from the team Citroen ??Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
One doesn't have to even read between the lines from Petter's comments that he was told that his fourth postition was "acceptable" by the team Citroen. :mark:
Hopefully Petter is a factory driver next year or having a different manu in order to push unlimited....
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
I told this already a year ago! ;) :D
Could you please help me with advice?
Does Petter use the pace-notes systems in which numbers mean sharpness of turn, or does he use a system in which numbers are intended for gears?
If not Petter, who uses english pace-notes with (numbers-turn) correlation?
And where is it possible to find some kind of glossary with standard definitions and terms used in english notes?
Thanks in advance!
PS: sorry in advance, didn't know where else to ask this question,
Clearly like Colin notes, I will assume the numbers represent sharpness of turns. Except Petter notes are more loaded, Colin notes are more simplified. It doesn't make sense to represent gears because how can he tell what exact gears to use at all times and makes for inflexible driving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yssUx26PVjI (Mills)
good upwriting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacenotes
Here's a comparison of different note types
http://www.rallynews.net/pattersonpa...ystemtypes.asp
Thank you very much for your help, guys!
http://twitter.com/Becsywecsy/status/22514668404
2 car entry for petters team in France apparently!