Once a year race v 16-20 race championship.......Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Comparing apples with butt plugs methinks..... ;)
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Once a year race v 16-20 race championship.......Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Comparing apples with butt plugs methinks..... ;)
Just remember how many hours that race runs for and the fact that it runs in the dark too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
You've been whining for over 1/4 of the total posts on the thread, does it irritate you that others will follow the childish attitude that only their own opinion can be the right one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I've yet to see a single poster on this thread state that the sport is ruined if drivers are better protected, and most have given their reasonings for not wanting to see enclosed cockpits. Quite a few have asked if you have any valid statistics or other information showing closed cockpit racing is safer, yet you haven't shown any such data if it exists.
So do us all a favor and quit acting like a child, using the internet to toss about insults you'd likely be scared to death to deliver to most people in person. You're simply not impressing anyone by thinking you should be the only one allowed to have an opinion, and consistently breaching forum regulations with insults if you don't get your way.
And am I the only one that's been around aircraft or other canopies? When you start dealing with shields made for high impact ratings they aren't exactly lightweight. Tack on the AC unit compressor, condensor, etc, etc, and it will be without doubt a new "formula".
On the up side, they can add at least one or two more buttons to the steering wheel for the AC controls and wipers. Can we add seat heaters too? :)
Nothing wrong with a canopy if you can make it work and not roast the driver and be able to be jettisoned easily without creating other problems.
The reality is, the problem's that the canopy would solve would be compounded by all the other problems it brings.
Racing is dangerous, suck it up and get used to it. They are doing all they can to protect drivers, it isn't as if no one in the FIA cares. The HANS and design features to protect the driver have made the modern f1 car about as safe as can be expected.
If you can give me a canopy that doesn't create more issues than the odd incident injuring a driver without one, well then maybe you have something, but it hasn't been demonstrated yet.
Do yourself a favour and stop posting on here, it is not me who started with the childishness, it annoys me that people can't have a sensible discussion but I'm not throwing my toys out of the pram like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
I came in here with a genuine question which the FIA were working on probably before I even posted it, the main argument that people have is that things are the way they are so shouldn't be changed. Tbh that's a stupid argument and anyone with half a brain knows it. Now you're saying that somehow having a compressor, condensor suddenly makes it a different series. What about all the silly winglets, did that make it a different series, what about KERS, what about DRS? What about double deck diffusers? I'm sorry but the status quo argument is a silly argument. I've enjoyed it when people have suggested geniune issues like heat, or perhaps fire or being stuck in the car. Now tbh I don't see how a drive can get out of an upside down F1 car now anyway (especially with HANS) so personally I don't feel it's a problem but I'm sure the FIA will run their tests and make sure before they even think about suggesting this to teams. :)
Like I said we have the best and most inovative engineers in the world. I certainly think it would be stupid to institute something which is almost certain to cause further danger due to the fact that the drivers are more fatigued due to heat or due to other dangers. No one wants this and that's why it's great that the FIA are testing this and not simply forcing it upon the teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
The little windscreen seemed to do a decent enough job and obviously doesn't have the downsides of a full canopy, how do people feel about that?
Well lets see what it's actually like in a test before we say that it definitely obstructs the drivers view.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
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Originally Posted by Daniel
Quit your whining.
Only if you ignore the sensible posts with those users valid reasons do the posts become simply about change. Not a single poster has stated they they don't care at all about driver safety, they simply stated concerns beyond that.
I stated the open wheel aspect was my biggest concern, and listed other concerns with the canopy. I don't want change that adds weight and complexity and can lessen the performance of the cars, especially unless it's proven (not speculated) that the changes will make a real increase in safety.
FIA tests fighter-jet canopy for use in Formula 1
FIA tests fighter-jet canopy for use in Formula 1
http://www.hindustantimes.com/F1-dri...e1-722346.aspx
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The Formula One governing body has rejected the proposals to fit car cockpits with F-16 type safety canopies. Many Formula One teams were considering to use poly- carbonate screens to provide added
protection following Felipe Massa's near fatal smash with a flying suspension spring
There's another point against , that I read in a quote from Marc Surer .
What about a KERS failure , where the vapours get into the cockpit ?