See? It's drastically changing the environment as we speak. Action now! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
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See? It's drastically changing the environment as we speak. Action now! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
i really enjoyed that the Vatican has the same voting rights as, say, the UK and the US.
makes the dodgy lack of transparency all the more transparent.
I can't take Pitpass seriously, their reporting smacks desperately of an organisation trying not to piss off the people who provide their precious media credentials.
How else could you explain:
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Despite the best efforts of certain people within
the F1 paddock, aided and abetted by their friends
in the mainstream media, FIA President Max Mosley
has scored a resounding victory in his battle to
keep his job, winning today's crucial vote by 103
votes to 55.
Quality journalism? :erm:Quote:
In a blatant attempt to sway FIA members ahead of
today's all important Extraordinary General
Meeting - at which Max Mosley's fate will be
decided - Bernie Ecclestone has sent out a clear
warning... vote for Max and you're stuck with him
for another six years. While the rest of us await
not only news of the vote but also the two
investigations into how the News of the World
first got hold of the Mosley sex scandal in the
first place, Bernie Ecclestone has made another
attempt to rock the boat.
Hey, the Vatican could one day be a major player in motorsport. I for one would love to see a Popemobile in the WTCC :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Mickey T
I applaud this.
Awesome result.
Justice has prevailed.
Really, I can`t but admire how tenacious this man is.
If Sniff Petrol is the "Daily Sport" of F1, then PitP1ss must be "The Sun".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Does anyone apart from the most sycophantic fan take it seriously? I haven't looked at the bilge for years and feel infinatly better each day :)
Garry. You have on occassions let slip evidence of cognitive reasoning and intelligence. Admittedly, it's often disguised in some tirade or other but we know you are capable of being insightful, witty and even informed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Can we get back to that side of you? :p : :D
Whatever the morality of Max, it is immaterial now in the face of the damage his position is bringing to F1. He might be a tenatious old buzzard but that scaresly matters any more. Personally, I think he is a hypocrite and has issues that professional counselling will take years to iron out but that isn't a reason for him to quit. What is a reason is that now his position is untenable and he is persona non gratis around most of F1, He has lost the support of FIA members representing over 3/4 of the bulk of the FIA and is seen as a laughing stock (or worse) by anyone that has heard of him, do you not think he should do the decent thing for the FIA and get the hell out of Dodge.
I ask again, what good is there in him staying on and what can he possibly hope to accomplish?
This is often said by those who support him, but rarely qualified. Care to expand?Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
As I have said before, I am uncomfortable with people being forced out of jobs of any sort because of matters in their private lives, because not everyone's personal behaviour goes along with some sort of perceived norm. But the situation with Max Mosley has got completely out of hand and I'm not sure the FIA delegates realise what damage this is doing to the general motorsport 'brand'. Like it or not, the first thing most non-motorsport fans will think whenever they hear the name Max Mosley being mentioned will not be whatever he's done in the job, but 'That's the bloke who was in that video with the Nazi prostitutes'. Sometimes, it becomes impossible for public figures to carry on in these circumstances, and the best course of action is to step aside quietly.
My view that he should now go is based largely upon the ridiculous remarks he made towards the German car manufacturers who called for his resignation, not the original story. Personally, I don't believe in the 'Nazi' element of the story one bit. It's too perfect a fit, given his family heritage. If it can be proved in some way that this element of the story has in some way been concocted, then I will feel he has been rather hard done by. But taking legal action is potentially extremely risky for Mosley. As stated on here by various people, the News of the World must have known about some sort of sexual preferences on his part in order to carry out the sting. These are bound to come out in court.
One final thought. It is said that we live today in generally more liberal times, in which we care less about what everyone gets up to in the privacy of their own homes (or those of others), so long as it doesn't have wider adverse effects. However, when a case like this comes up, we see exactly the opposite — the view that this sort of behaviour is appalling, enough to cost someone their job, etc, etc. If the 'Nazi' bit is true, then I would agree with this. But I don't think it is. If it turns out to have been manufactured for the 'benefit' of the story, then would anyone on here who thinks Mosley should go because of what he got up to change their mind?
I think the 'laughing stock' thing is probably most important here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
By the way, I hate to bring this up, but I would like to ask whether some people commenting in favour of Mosley would be so tolerant of this behaviour if, say, Ron Dennis had been caught doing something similar?
I agree, none. However, again I must sound a note of caution, in that the fact he's in this position may not be entirely fair. But you are right in saying that he clearly has some difficult personal 'issues' that he ought to sort out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
He will maintain his policy of not paying "protection money", or do "favors" for the Anglo-Mob! :beer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on