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18th January 2007, 01:11
cal

What is Vihannespörssi, the sponsor of Jussi Välimäki? Something to do with vegetables, I can see that. Is it related to Rovanperäs old sponsor?
18th January 2007, 06:33
GigiGalliNo1

Bugalski back in the Xsara driving days, was sponsored by condoms!

And use to have them in the service park, and handed them out I believe! haha
18th January 2007, 06:39
Woodeye

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal

What is Vihannespörssi, the sponsor of Jussi Välimäki? Something to do with vegetables, I can see that. Is it related to Rovanperäs old sponsor?

Vihannespörssi is a supplier of fresh vegetables. It is a big stock were restaurants and other professionals can order vegetables from.

http://www.vihannesporssi.com/yritys.htm
18th January 2007, 06:56
White Sauron

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeonBrooke

I'd probably do it, but the thing is, I don't find any of the things we're discussing here completely distasteful or abhorrent, I just think that it would be embarrassing and would give the sport the wrong image.

In my humble opinion, there's nothing between TEAMS' sponsors, and WRC' image...
18th January 2007, 09:12
Maui J.

IMO here's why Pharamacuticals advertising should banned.

1. They are a corporate. Their main objective is to make money for the shareholders. The welfare and health of it's customers it not it's main objective.

2. Ask any doctor at a hospital and they will tell you that 40% of the patients in the medical wards are there because of a side effect of another medication that person has been taking.

3. The inhumane cruelty these companies do to thousands of lab animals everyday.

Wait to see Michael Moore's new film on the Pharmacutical Industry and you will see what I'm talking about. These companies have unbelievablely low morals.
18th January 2007, 09:19
Erki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maui J.

2. Ask any doctor at a hospital and they will tell you that 40% of the patients in the medical wards are there because of a side effect of another medication that person has been taking.

And given the number of different medications, it's nearly impossible to avoid it. A little article on the subject:
http://www.mind-energy.net/archives/...iple-Meds.html
18th January 2007, 23:14
Erki

I thought about that condoms V viagra battle and the conclusion is:

Viagra - draws a negative picture about drivers being weak
condoms - draws a positive picture: drivers are strong like race horses and potent like rabbits

Case closed :s mokin:
18th January 2007, 23:20
LeonBrooke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erki

I thought about that condoms V viagra battle and the conclusion is:

Viagra - draws a negative picture about drivers being weak
condoms - draws a positive picture: drivers are strong like race horses and potent like rabbits

Case closed :s mokin:

lol

I've got to agree. But what if the driver is a woman? What would it mean about Emma Gilmour?
18th January 2007, 23:30
Erki

There are condoms for women as well, I thought you knew it already... :o
18th January 2007, 23:35
LeonBrooke

Well of course there are, but because of the different physiological configuration it doesn't have quite the same implications... :s

What about Viagra, what's the image associated with that for a woman?
18th January 2007, 23:40
Erki

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeonBrooke

What about Viagra, what's the image associated with that for a woman?

Insatiable. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...ok/hand/00.gif
18th January 2007, 23:45
LeonBrooke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erki

Insatiable. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...ok/hand/00.gif

lol

Quite true... :s mokin:
18th January 2007, 23:49
Erki

And anyway, who needs Viagra when you can have maca. :cool:

1MxPS: What is Pyramide Technologies...anyone? :dozey:
18th January 2007, 23:55
A.F.F.

I dunno but that was about to look like a foreplay between you two.
18th January 2007, 23:57
LeonBrooke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erki

And anyway, who needs Viagra when you can have maca. :cool:

1MxPS: What is Pyramide Technologies...anyone? :dozey:

I really hope that no woman reads this conversation...

Pyramid Technologies is a manufacturer of time clocks, totaling clocks, payroll system clocks, and all accessories for time and attendance products for any ...

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en...logies&spell=1
19th January 2007, 00:00
LeonBrooke

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

I dunno but that was about to look like a foreplay between you two.

:o :eek:

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like women............
19th January 2007, 00:24
Erki

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeonBrooke

:o :eek:

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like women............

What, so you're saying you're not a woman? :confused:
19th January 2007, 00:25
Erki

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

I dunno but that was about to look like a foreplay between you two.

I hate jealousy too, I really do.
19th January 2007, 00:30
LeonBrooke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erki

What, so you're saying you're not a woman? :confused:

I hope you're joking.
19th January 2007, 03:09
FrankenSchwinn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maui J.

IMO here's why Pharamacuticals advertising should banned.

1. They are a corporate. Their main objective is to make money for the shareholders. The welfare and health of it's customers it not it's main objective.

2. Ask any doctor at a hospital and they will tell you that 40% of the patients in the medical wards are there because of a side effect of another medication that person has been taking.

3. The inhumane cruelty these companies do to thousands of lab animals everyday.

Wait to see Michael Moore's new film on the Pharmacutical Industry and you will see what I'm talking about. These companies have unbelievablely low morals.

fnck #3, that's budda talk!

replace 1 with this (which was part of my philosophy studies):
1. the drug companies are, for the most part, not interested in curing the illness but curbing it, or its symptoms. there are many diseases that, if cured, would bring no moneys to the companies who spent millions developing a cure. and if they do develop a cure for something they would have to sell it for such an incredible amount to get a return on their investment that they would piss off their friends at the insurance companies and the public as well, therefore dropping the price of their stock. but announcing that they have found a drug that diminishes some effects of whatever illness and that they can sell that drug to someone who has to take a pill or 2 a day for the rest of their lives will bring them a constant cash flow (lowers the costs of R&D) and a company image boost (stock goes up). and then, they can refine the drug more and more until their patents go out and other companies can finally profit for making an actual cure (based on the other companie's costly research) and boost that second company..... vicious circle. hence: don't get sick and grow your own vegetables.

so, here comes the final blow as to why i -strongly- believe that prescription drug advertising should be banned in motorsports and everywhere:

3. using the same logic that is applied to tobacco advertising, we can ban drug advertising for the simple reason that the human mind is weak. tobacco was banned, not because it is bad because everyone already knows that, but because associating tobacco products to motorsports will result in weakening one's will and falling for the temptation. that is because our minds are such that advertizing gets to us and gets to us deeply. some of you do not believe me and that's fine, but almost everything you do is dictated upon the will of the advertising companies. why you drink a particular beer, why you buy a certain shampoo, why you eat a certain sausage, why you shop at a certain shop is all dictated as to an add you saw or that someone saw and told you about. you might say that it's because that shop is the cheapest, or that shampoo makes my hair shine or that it is because it's the best tasting beer, but the reason you tried it the first time is because you saw an ad for it or heard about it from someone who did see an ad for it. that is precisely why prescription drugs should not advertise. people do see ads on tv or on the side of cars and then go see their doctors and tell them that they cant get hard sometimes and that they should get some blue diamonds. the doctors examine them, tell them there is nothing wrong but the patients still insist and ask for a second opinion. or, for viagra's case, it has made the drug an underground phenomenon where people steal it and sell it on the streets like crack (yes, i've seen it in europe too). where i now live, the usa, there is presicription drug advertising and they say in their comercials "ask your doctor". patients are not the ones supposed to ask their doctors, the doctors are the ones supposed to tell the patients what they need. where i come from in europe advertising to the general public for prescription medication is illegal and guess what, medication are a lot cheaper. with a puzzled look on your face you are squinting as you are reading and asking yourself: what's that got to do with anything? well, drugs are a lot more expensive in the usa because there is a large chunk of budgets set for advertising. you watch american tv and you see all these comercials interupting shows every 10 minutes, and you have to ask yourself, how much money is spent to advertise a product? and how does that affect the price? some products need the advertising capital to be able to sell in mass quatities in order to make a profit. but prescription drugs cannot be sold to the general public and have to go through that annoying filter that is a doctors' prescription note. so you have to pound the potential consumers with advertising to manage to send a relative few to see their doctors where in turn that number will diminish to an even smaller fraction for the ones who do need the product (or can convince their doctors that they do).
so you see, prescription medication advertising is a way for advertisers to control a part of your purchasing habbits that they have only a small influence upon.

who cares about mike moore and lab rats?!
19th January 2007, 03:18
FrankenSchwinn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maui J.

The inhumane cruelty these companies do to thousands of lab animals everyday.

and my favorite thing to reply to comments like this: animals are not human, that's why we can do inhumane cruel stuff to them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankenSchwinn

fnck #3, that's budda talk!

replace 1 with this (which was part of my philosophy studies):
1. the drug companies are, for the most part, not interested in curing the illness but curbing it, or its symptoms. there are many diseases that, if cured, would bring no moneys to the companies who spent millions developing a cure. and if they do develop a cure for something they would have to sell it for such an incredible amount to get a return on their investment that they would piss off their friends at the insurance companies and the public as well, therefore dropping the price of their stock. but announcing that they have found a drug that diminishes some effects of whatever illness and that they can sell that drug to someone who has to take a pill or 2 a day for the rest of their lives will bring them a constant cash flow (lowers the costs of R&D) and a company image boost (stock goes up). and then, they can refine the drug more and more until their patents go out and other companies can finally profit for making an actual cure (based on the other companie's costly research) and boost that second company..... vicious circle. hence: don't get sick and grow your own vegetables.

so, here comes the final blow as to why i -strongly- believe that prescription drug advertising should be banned in motorsports and everywhere:

3. using the same logic that is applied to tobacco advertising, we can ban drug advertising for the simple reason that the human mind is weak. tobacco was banned, not because it is bad because everyone already knows that, but because associating tobacco products to motorsports will result in weakening one's will and falling for the temptation. that is because our minds are such that advertizing gets to us and gets to us deeply. some of you do not believe me and that's fine, but almost everything you do is dictated upon the will of the advertising companies. why you drink a particular beer, why you buy a certain shampoo, why you eat a certain sausage, why you shop at a certain shop is all dictated as to an add you saw or that someone saw and told you about. you might say that it's because that shop is the cheapest, or that shampoo makes my hair shine or that it is because it's the best tasting beer, but the reason you tried it the first time is because you saw an ad for it or heard about it from someone who did see an ad for it. that is precisely why prescription drugs should not advertise. people do see ads on tv or on the side of cars and then go see their doctors and tell them that they cant get hard sometimes and that they should get some blue diamonds. the doctors examine them, tell them there is nothing wrong but the patients still insist and ask for a second opinion. or, for viagra's case, it has made the drug an underground phenomenon where people steal it and sell it on the streets like crack (yes, i've seen it in europe too). where i now live, the usa, there is presicription drug advertising and they say in their comercials "ask your doctor". patients are not the ones supposed to ask their doctors, the doctors are the ones supposed to tell the patients what they need. where i come from in europe advertising to the general public for prescription medication is illegal and guess what, medication are a lot cheaper. with a puzzled look on your face you are squinting as you are reading and asking yourself: what's that got to do with anything? well, drugs are a lot more expensive in the usa because there is a large chunk of budgets set for advertising. you watch american tv and you see all these comercials interupting shows every 10 minutes, and you have to ask yourself, how much money is spent to advertise a product? and how does that affect the price? some products need the advertising capital to be able to sell in mass quatities in order to make a profit. but prescription drugs cannot be sold to the general public and have to go through that annoying filter that is a doctors' prescription note. so you have to pound the potential consumers with advertising to manage to send a relative few to see their doctors where in turn that number will diminish to an even smaller fraction for the ones who do need the product (or can convince their doctors that they do).
so you see, prescription medication advertising is a way for advertisers to control a part of your purchasing habbits that they have only a small influence upon.

who cares about mike moore and lab rats?!

Maui, i just noticed something...... i hope you don't think i am attacking you personally. i believe in the same things you seem to believe in, it's just the road we take to get there are is different. so, in some cases it's the destination, not the journey that counts!
19th January 2007, 05:43
Erki

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeonBrooke

I hope you're joking.

Was it that bad save then? :confused:
19th January 2007, 22:52
LeonBrooke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erki

Was it that bad save then? :confused:

Go on, just admit what you were really thinking... :p :
20th January 2007, 16:36
Simmi

Pretty interesting in the UK has anyone seen the rally themed RedBull advert?
Strange one no specific reference to their involvement in rallying just a cartoon car that goes over a jump and gets "Wings".
20th January 2007, 21:55
LeonBrooke

I've seen that one in NZ. I suppose it's in the Red Bull culture to not make specific references to cars or teams. The brand is strong enough not to need it.
9th March 2007, 23:45
PuddleJumper

Munchi's car names

Just as the Stobart Focus WRCs have ladies names in the tradition of the Stobart trucks, I noticed today that the Munchi's Focus WRCs have names on them too which I think are ice cream flavours.

In Mexico, LPC's car is "Super Dulce de Leche" and JPR's car is "Crema Jersey". Can anyone translate?
14th March 2007, 13:30
Vilkavainen

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuddleJumper

Just as the Stobart Focus WRCs have ladies names in the tradition of the Stobart trucks, I noticed today that the Munchi's Focus WRCs have names on them too which I think are ice cream flavours.

In Mexico, LPC's car is "Super Dulce de Leche" and JPR's car is "Crema Jersey". Can anyone translate?

The translations will be something like "Extra sweet of milk" and "Jersey Cream".

Do anyone know what Cramo the new sponsor of Mikko Hirvonen is?
14th March 2007, 13:54
[WRCRR]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilkavainen

Do anyone know what Cramo the new sponsor of Mikko Hirvonen is?

http://www.rk.fi/index-eng.html They rent construction equipment.
14th March 2007, 21:06
Glee

Expert (Henning Solbergs main sponsor) is going to open a brand new shop in my neighbor town (Kristiansund).
Henning Solberg and Cato Menkerud is to bee present.
Among the activities is an Playstation WRC4 competition. The first price is a DVD Recorder. But if you beat Henning, you wil get a 40" LCD-TV...
14th March 2007, 21:17
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glee

Expert (Henning Solbergs main sponsor) is going to open a brand new shop in my neighbor town (Kristiansund).
Henning Solberg and Cato Menkerud is to bee present.
Among the activities is an Playstation WRC4 competition. The first price is a DVD Recorder. But if you beat Henning, you wil get a 40" LCD-TV...

con grats for your new tv :)
14th March 2007, 21:37
SubaruNorway

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

con grats for your new tv :)

Agree Expert needs to give away alot of tv's ive played against him and he is not that good altough he drives okay to be 34
14th March 2007, 21:46
Glee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

con grats for your new tv :)

I don't have time to bee present, and i think my level in Playstation is below average...
14th March 2007, 21:50
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glee

I don't have time to bee present, and i think my level in Playstation is below average...

send your little sister if you have one :)
15th March 2007, 10:37
jonkka

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankenSchwinn

fnck #3, that's budda talk!

so you see, prescription medication advertising is a way for advertisers to control a part of your purchasing habbits that they have only a small influence upon.

Anyone foolish enough to be influenced by advertising rightly deserves whatever befalls upon.
15th March 2007, 22:00
Maui J.

Foolish ones!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkka

Anyone foolish enough to be influenced by advertising rightly deserves whatever befalls upon.

In that case we are all fools. Manufacturer involvment in the WRC is advertising. What would you prefer... Subaru, Ford, Citroen and co battling it out on the stages, or a painted board on the edge of a football field? Advertising is everywhere and it's extremely hard to escape.

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