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16th August 2007, 07:44
Hendersen

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

And who bought these slaves? :rolleyes:

British plantation owners, by large, of course.
16th August 2007, 08:00
pino

Please stick to the topic and keep politics off this forum...thanks :)
17th August 2007, 01:36
Roamy

Alonso Snubs McLaren Peace-Talks'
Fernando Alonso's relationship with McLaren suffered another blow this week when he has reportedly turned down the opportunity for peace-talks. The Spaniard was invited to join Lewis Hamilton and Ron Dennis aboard a yacht off Menorca in the hope of ironing out tensions, however, rejected the offer.

Now this is my kind of guy! Up your ass ron - I am outta here
17th August 2007, 02:32
markabilly

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Originally Posted by fousto

Alonso Snubs McLaren Peace-Talks'
Fernando Alonso's relationship with McLaren suffered another blow this week when he has reportedly turned down the opportunity for peace-talks. The Spaniard was invited to join Lewis Hamilton and Ron Dennis aboard a yacht off Menorca in the hope of ironing out tensions, however, rejected the offer.

Now this is my kind of guy! Up your ass ron - I am outta here

No surprize--one does not publicily invite someone to the table to resolve diffferences within a team, one does it private/ So much for team reunification

One goes to a neutral ground to resolve differences and not to the playground of his foe, to sit as a guest while the other guy is busy messing with the owner's daughter...

Just read the details, it ain't that FA is that tough, he just ain't close to being that stupid....join our little party as our guest...well that should tell him who is in and who is out...

:vader:
17th August 2007, 02:32
Timber

what

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Originally Posted by Shalafi

Hamilton and Button, all english team... :D

Alonso back to Renault to drive with Heikki. Hamilton is quicker than Alonso and will only get better. Alonsos ego is so big that he cant handle a faster team-mate. And he goes back to peaceful Renault only to find out that all the time improving Heikki will be supertough to beat next year. ;)

RD dont let Hamilton go, he wants his own prodigy to become english Schumacher and will forgive LH because he is young and will hopefully learn some respect.

I pity the driver that will joining LH at MacLaren , he will treated the same way that the drivers at Ferrari when MS was there ......
I think LH ego is larger then Alonso and Alonso has the right to have one
he won the title twice .... :eek:
17th August 2007, 02:40
Timber

It is Renault ....

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Originally Posted by DonnieDarco

I've been reading that other teams are attempting to cash in on the whole debacle by trying to persuade Alonso to sign with them. Are they insane?? :D

What happens if he goes to another team and gets his backside kicked by that driver too?? More toys thrown out of his pram, handbags at dawn?

Lets not forget Alonso threw a major wobbly at Renualt too, before he left!

I think Alonso is a very talented driver, but I'm starting to think that if I were a team leader I'd not consider him worth all the hassle. Sorry Donks ;) :D

you are so bias that it is painful to read your post . I think Alonso was very happy at Renault and was just looking for another challenge . Alonso will find a seat next year with a good team . That i am sure . Pity the :rolleyes: guy that will be driving with the Brat at MC.
17th August 2007, 02:46
Timber

Maybe

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

I think that if Alonso left McLaren, there would be a queue of talented drivers wanting to drive for Ron Dennis. I see Nick Heidfeld, Mark Webber, Kubica, Heiki, all chasing the vacant seat. Even bunsen.

I do not think that any of the drivers you mention would want to be racing in the same team as LH . If you think Alonso has an ego you just wait what happen if Lewis win the title this year ....
17th August 2007, 02:47
Valve Bounce

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Originally Posted by Timber

I pity the driver that will joining LH at MacLaren , he will treated the same way that the drivers at Ferrari when MS was there ......
I think LH ego is larger then Alonso and Alonso has the right to have one
he won the title twice .... :eek:

Maybe they give seat to Yamamoto, NO?? He be good!!
17th August 2007, 03:03
Timber

Funny

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

Here's a hint for internet information regarding formula 1 (and anything to do with history for that matter): if you see ".uk" anywhere in the URL, ignore that site completely.

Funny and probably true ....
17th August 2007, 03:52
Mifune

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

British invented the most massive slave trade the world has ever seen. Other than that, they have invented little of note. F-1 couldn't have been made without some Germans inventing the internal combustion engines and automobiles. Even that said, I'm not even sure the early history of F-1, who started what. Given the names of the governing bodies, however, it seems unlikely it was of British genesis.

your post doesnt really deserve a response but i have a few minutes to kill before i go out.
the british did not invent slavery, merely refined it, and arguably abandoned slavery when it was at its most lucrative, it should be noted of course slavery was refined further by....you! in the united states as for other inventions of note im not going to quote every single one as time is short so here are a few highlights the Tin Can, the Locomotive, industry, radar, the vacuum cleaner, the language that you speak, viagra, lightbulbs, the fax, the internet, television, penicillin... and as this is a motosport forum lets bring this back on topic slightly, disc brakes, the internal combustion engine(in principle british involvement predates german), putting the engine behind the driver etc. etc. etc.

ps F1 may not be entirely of british genesis (honestly who cares?) but it is british drivers and teams who have dominated its modern history in terms of driver/constructor championships.

italy 3/18
germany 7/2 (4 if you include Mac as merc)
UK 12/35

i like you, you're funny, but i dont think you'll be here very long.
17th August 2007, 04:01
baz69

FA needs to grow up big time. He's getting his a** kicked by LH. Like Mika Hakkinen said, FA simply cannot handle the fact he is being outdone by a rookie. I would prefer it if FA left McLaren - it leaves the door open for some really talented youngsters who are hungry to race in F1.
17th August 2007, 04:08
baz69

Timber... are you for real?
17th August 2007, 06:20
wmcot

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Originally Posted by Mifune

your post doesnt really deserve a response but i have a few minutes to kill before i go out.
the british did not invent slavery, merely refined it, and arguably abandoned slavery when it was at its most lucrative, it should be noted of course slavery was refined further by....you! in the united states as for other inventions of note im not going to quote every single one as time is short so here are a few highlights the Tin Can, the Locomotive, industry, radar, the vacuum cleaner, the language that you speak, viagra, lightbulbs, the fax, the internet, television, penicillin... and as this is a motosport forum lets bring this back on topic slightly, disc brakes, the internal combustion engine(in principle british involvement predates german), putting the engine behind the driver etc. etc. etc.

You're really Jeremy Clarkson, aren't you????
17th August 2007, 07:41
Valve Bounce

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Originally Posted by wmcot

You're really Jeremy Clarkson, aren't you????

Which team does he drive for? :confused:
17th August 2007, 08:41
CarlMetro

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Originally Posted by Timber

I do not think that any of the drivers you mention would want to be racing in the same team as LH

[sarcasm mode] Yeah you're right. I can't see any of them wanting to drive the best car on the track at the moment, for a team who have always treated both their drivers as equals :rolleyes: [sarcasm mode]
17th August 2007, 09:59
TMorel

Hang on, if LH can win the championship without having earned it, or with no talent, or by using FA's settings etc then it doesn't matter WHO drives, because obviously it's purely the car not the driver
17th August 2007, 10:09
CarlMetro

How can you say that he hasn't earned it :confused: He has consistantly beaten his vastly more experienced, and two-time world champion, teammate. It doesn't matter that he's beaten everyone else too, the best measure of any driver is how they compare to their teammate.

Still, that doesn't really matter because Alonso has been given an inferior car by a team that hates, hasn't he ? :rolleyes:
17th August 2007, 10:48
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

How can you say that he hasn't earned it :confused: He has consistantly beaten his vastly more experienced, and two-time world champion, teammate. It doesn't matter that he's beaten everyone else too, the best measure of any driver is how they compare to their teammate.

Still, that doesn't really matter because Alonso has been given an inferior car by a team that hates, hasn't he ? :rolleyes:

Indeed. If I was a rookie and won a WDC in my first year and beat my very highly rated teamate, I would expect some sort of recognition.

LH is a great addition to the F1 circus and should be respected for the maturity he has shown on and off the track. He could have done a lot worse and used his rookie status as an excuse. Rather he has let his racing do the talking and delivered the goods.
17th August 2007, 12:33
Hendersen

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

How can you say that he hasn't earned it :confused: He has consistantly beaten his vastly more experienced, and two-time world champion, teammate. It doesn't matter that he's beaten everyone else too, the best measure of any driver is how they compare to their teammate.

Still, that doesn't really matter because Alonso has been given an inferior car by a team that hates, hasn't he ? :rolleyes:

He's constantly beaten Alonso, oh really? What would the WDC standings be if FIA hadn't decided to bogusly move Alonso back on one of the hardest tracks to pass on in the entiire history of formula one? Alonso has outdriven and out qualified alonso when fuel load is considered essentially every race this year.
17th August 2007, 12:37
Flat.tyres

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

Alonso has outdriven and out qualified alonso when fuel load is considered essentially every race this year.

OK, you have me convinced. now, that IS impressive :laugh:
17th August 2007, 12:40
Hendersen

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

OK, you have me convinced. now, that IS impressive :laugh:

Ya, it takes a rocket scientist to keep track of who is pitting early because they decided to go light on fuel.
17th August 2007, 12:42
Dave B

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

He's constantly beaten Alonso, oh really? What would the WDC standings be if FIA hadn't decided to bogusly move Alonso back on one of the hardest tracks to pass on in the entiire history of formula one?

If you reverse the finishing positions of the McLaren drivers at Hungary (1st and 4th), Hamilton would still be leading the championship, albeit with a reduced margin.

We get it: you don't like Hamilton. I don't know why, but that's your choice. But pointlessly slagging him off without ever explaining your reasons is getting somewhat tedious to say the least.

I fully expect a response dragging my nationality into this (I'm British, despite the flag), so bring it on. But as you're about to become the 2nd person ever in 6 years to make my ignore list, I won't see it.
17th August 2007, 12:47
Hendersen

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

If you reverse the finishing positions of the McLaren drivers at Hungary (1st and 4th), Hamilton would still be leading the championship, albeit with a reduced margin.

We get it: you don't like Hamilton. I don't know why, but that's your choice. But pointlessly slagging him off without ever explaining your reasons is getting somewhat tedious to say the least.

I fully expect a response dragging my nationality into this (I'm British, despite the flag), so bring it on. But as you're about to become the 2nd person ever in 6 years to make my ignore list, I won't see it.

I don't like him because he is the worst combination of every miserable quality in a driver. Horribly overrated for being distinctly average and having an even worse crybaby personality than Alonso, JV or drama queeen supreme Mansell ever had. He's a total dirtball that, after trash talking the guy that gave him everything in racing career, should be stuck in a spyker for the next several years where he can learn some manners and what its like not to drive the best car in the field, two unqiue experiences for the arrogant twat.
17th August 2007, 12:48
CarlMetro

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

Alonso has outdriven and out qualified alonso when fuel load is considered essentially every race this year.

Alonso has out-driven and out-qualified alonso :confused: So you're saying that he's managed to out do himself? I thought he was good but I didn't realise he'd managed to crack quatum physics too :\
17th August 2007, 12:53
CarlMetro

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

I don't like him because he is the worst combination of every miserable quality in a driver. Horribly overrated for being distinctly average and having an even worse crybaby personality than Alonso, JV or drama queeen supreme Mansell ever had. He's a total dirtball that, after trash talking the guy that gave him everything in racing career, should be stuck in a spyker for the next several years where he can learn some manners and what its like not to drive the best car in the field, two unqiue experiences for the arrogant twat.

Yeah....................but how do you really feel about him? :p :

I'm sure Lewis and the rest of the F1 world will have constant sleepless nights about your feelings, but I'm sure, with a little bit of counselling they'll get over it eventually.

Personally, you'll just be the first ever I'll add to my ignore list :D
17th August 2007, 12:55
Hendersen

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

Alonso has out-driven and out-qualified alonso :confused: So you're saying that he's managed to out do himself? I thought he was good but I didn't realise he'd managed to crack quatum physics too :\

Funny, funny. Originally I had two sentences, and I added them together and didn't notice the error. Replace the second alonso with "him".
17th August 2007, 13:52
Flat.tyres

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

Funny, funny. Originally I had two sentences, and I added them together and didn't notice the error. Replace the second alonso with "him".

Is this in the biblical sense or the Gumball Rally one?
17th August 2007, 13:57
Flat.tyres

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Originally Posted by CarlMetro

Personally, you'll just be the first ever I'll add to my ignore list :D

and miss out on all the comedy value. Are You Kidding!!!!

come on hendersen, dont beat about the bush. youve got a crush on him but cant admit it, havent you.

is it the big dolefull eyes or the fresh "young boy" face. Its nothing to be ashamed about. some of my best friends are homophobic, xenophobic racists in denial of their true feelings. :kiss:
17th August 2007, 14:35
Valve Bounce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hendersen

Alonso has outdriven and out qualified alonso when fuel load is considered essentially every race this year.

I guess Lewis Hamilton hasn't a ghost of a chance then :(
17th August 2007, 15:08
Flat.tyres

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

Ya, it takes a rocket scientist to keep track of who is pitting early because they decided to go light on fuel.

who Alonso :laugh:

are you seriously trying to say that Lewis has been running light on fuel in qualification compared to Alonso?

if you are, I'd say you were a prat.
17th August 2007, 15:16
Flat.tyres

actually, after re-reading it, it appears you are trying to suggest that.

OK, lets have a look shall we at the first pit stops.

GP FA LH

AUS 22 23
MAL 18 20
BAH 22 19
SPA 19 22
MON 26 29
CAN 23 22
USA 22 21
FRA 36 39
GB 20 16
EUR wipeout and all classed as 1 on stats
HUN 17 19

I make it that Freddie was lighter 6 times to Lewis 4.

hint: open mouth, change feet, close mouth.
17th August 2007, 15:29
jso1985

or Hamilton as the evil genious he is has figured out how to save fuel :p :
17th August 2007, 15:36
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

hint: open mouth, change feet, close mouth.

:laugh: ROTFLMFHO. I cant wait to hear the reply :laugh:
17th August 2007, 15:55
Flat.tyres

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Originally Posted by jso1985

or Hamilton as the evil genious he is has figured out how to save fuel :p :

Ron was probably slipping him some in his drinks bottle :D

or, Lewis cheated by having a solar pannel and hybrid engine to conserve fuel

or, Ron fed him beans and plumbed his arse into the manifold system to run on methane

or, because he was British, he was full of hot air and therefore lightened the car

or, or, or.....
19th August 2007, 11:57
Kata89

Hamilton and... well.... don't know but it won't be Alonso
19th August 2007, 15:28
markabilly

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

actually, after re-reading it, it appears you are trying to suggest that.

OK, lets have a look shall we at the first pit stops.

GP FA LH

AUS 22 23
MAL 18 20
BAH 22 19
SPA 19 22
MON 26 29
CAN 23 22
USA 22 21
FRA 36 39
GB 20 16
EUR wipeout and all classed as 1 on stats
HUN 17 19

I make it that Freddie was lighter 6 times to Lewis 4.

hint: open mouth, change feet, close mouth.

Because of the fuel lap credit, one also needs to look at how many burn off laps each did--LH could start heavier on fuel yet still be lighter when he did his last Q lap

Or RD could just be calling FA in earlier to give some advantage to LH of running lighter, longer

It use to crack me up, when the announcers would go on about how RB was running much lighter than MS, yet MS was still faster than RB........all cause RB was pitting first meant he had less fuel on board...other times, it was the team wanted to get ready for MS by practicing doing RB first........

but with your counting abilitites, may I inquire as to the availability of your services? Saw a rabbit close to my yard the other day, and he may have eaten some leaves of my grass, and I was wondering if you might possibly be able to count them so I can be sure to replace any that might be missing... :D
20th August 2007, 11:52
Flat.tyres

I give up, I really do :rolleyes:
20th August 2007, 14:40
markabilly

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

I give up, I really do :rolleyes:

Why such a grumper?

u should be happy, you got a new girlfriend or boy friend or whatever......http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...761#post328761
20th August 2007, 14:52
Flat.tyres

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Why such a grumper?

u should be happy, you got a new girlfriend or boy friend or whatever......http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...761#post328761

you seem to be obsessed with myself and your suspicion of homosexual goings on.

you only have to ask darling. I bet your a taker and not a giver aren't you :kiss:
20th August 2007, 16:13
markabilly

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

you seem to be obsessed with myself and your suspicion of homosexual goings on.

you only have to ask darling. I bet your a taker and not a giver aren't you :kiss:

No, i was just not being a sexist, and assuming anything about the sex of the parties involved, so i left the choice to you guys, girls or guy and girl or "other"as your choice may be as to how or what "joys " you would all have together in the future.

best wishes :s mokin:

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