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Maybe just a PR shit, because we all know that non-hybrid car without ballast would probably beat full hybrid powered car. At the end they would fool themselves if Sesks would beat all on the field. I see it like that, that now, when they will take out units from all cars, they suddenly don't need ballast.
they just decreased the weight to keep power/weight ratio. that doesn't mean that they will not use ballast in the back. they can reduce weight in other areas to keep the car balanced.
That's some work required then. Why not just leave the weight and increase the power (restrictor) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by wyler
could a 2024 rally 1 hybrid run on wrc 2025? because of the equivalent power to weight ratio
Let's hope it(not adding ballast) won't lead to dangerous moments for drivers..
I mean that in case of wanting to keep the weight minimal, but taking the risk of car being less stable and more surprising on some sections..
I don't know how much room there is, but maybe it is possibly to rearrange spare wheel position lower or more to where Hy system was.
But we'll see how it goes it already in 2 months time :)
I’m sure the drivers feel a bit of relief with no hybrid systems in their cars at the Acropolis Rally in June & less stress on the cars in Safari Rally Kenya.
bunch of reasons: balance, reliability of transmission (changing restrictor affects the whole powertrain resistance) and so on. and teams are constantly developing anyway with jokers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Now ban carbon fiber parts and we will be going somewhere...
CD reaction to hybrid being dropped...
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc-hybri...being-dropped/
Seems like they can only blame themselves for changing how their unit must be checked and the costs associated.
With the lower weight limit this seems unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
shouldnt wrc create something to engage more with people that knows rally because they play DIRT and watch quick rally crashes videos on the internet?
i have NO IDEA what, but i have 6 friends (i asked this last weekend during a mate's wedding haha) that have DIRT on their console but NEVER watched a single WRC 2min highlight. and lets be fair, theres probably zero people on this planet that skips a rally crash video on their social media thing.
what could fia-wrc-promoter do to increase the awareness of the champioship to these people? i dont own a console anymore, its been a long time, but i remember never seeing real life driver's names in DIRT. i dont remember which ones i played tho. could that make some difference? like "jeeez, i can never beat this AI called Kalle Rovampera" haha idk. ("oh, hes the actuall rally champion! ohhh")
on the crash videos thing... i mean, its weird that most folks dont even know what "WRC" mean. maybe WRC itself could start re-uploading crash videos haha but naming driver-year, name of the championship. having clickable links to get more info. IDK... just woke up thinking about that
Some people on the forum claimed that without any valid argument or understanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
You do realize that the MGU unit was around 100kg, but the cars are only 80kg lighter? So there will be some ballast but not the MGU dummy weight. I would guess they are free to place ballast as they are already now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Banning carbon fiber parts would be pointless in the middle of the rules cycle.
At 36 > 35mm restrictor it could be something like 360 hp at 1180 kg = 3.27 kg/hp. Hybrid car would be 380 hp at 1260 kg = 3.32 kg/hp. For comparison, Rally2 is at 289 hp at 1230 kg = 4.25 kg/hp.
There should still be similar spectacle but not the boost from start.
You mean something like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCm7t1osluM
see? more than a million views! ERC's most watched video on the channel! yet I doubt 90% of the people who saw this clip know there is an european rally championship, u'know? =/Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
AFAIK, Rally2s have been over 300HP for quite a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mary Mary
Could it be Spain in the fall 2026? Wasn't there news that Spain wanted to explore the possibility of switching between Canary Islands and the Mainland, Salou area? Salou has the proven and good area for rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
For the sake of comparison it makes sense to use the official numbers, unless someone has pretty accurate numbers for a Rally1 engine?Quote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
The sad part is the tarmac rounds only replace tarmac ones, so we can assume that either Canary will lost a place for Croatia or they will stay and CER will be gone. Japan, have new contract until 2028 but they don't run that event in april time usualy. Maybe they will finaly put another tarmac event in the middle of season to break that gravel dominance of events, but we can just hope of that happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiesta
Yes since the Canary Islands have a contract in place for 2025-2026 it would make sense they’d take up that slot, and then come 2027 they’d go back to Salou like it was (almost) always in October. However, it would mean the layout would still be, Tarmac event in April and then nothing in-between for 6 months…but who knows, 2027 is a long way a away, and a lot can change until then. It’s purely speculative at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiesta
Who knows. If they listen to Kalle all the events will be held in field in Tuscany over one day...
I think that is not what is planned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiesta
The idea is that the rally that represents Spain in the World Rally Championship remains forever in Gran Canaria.
https://rallyjournal.com/wrc-stars-c...-honestly-say/ I don't know who is lying now, but if Adrien is ''rising'' his value like that, then he will soon become most hated driver in the field.
Remember Drive to Survive? It is documentary-fiction with a whole lot of bs. It be a shame if they took a look at that and thought "we need some of those".Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Maybe he didnt get an "official offer", but in their chat it was said the best they could possibly have available is a part-season.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
I dont think so...Quote:
Originally Posted by 106 sport
This,Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
and I believe Latvala himself is not in a position to make such offers :D
No, they said they only want it so they can celebrate their 50th anniversary in the WRC, after that there's no reason the rally in Spain shouldn't return to Catalunya.Quote:
Originally Posted by 106 sport
It was a bad idea back in 2012-2013, no reason why it'll suddenly be a good one in 2025: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/quali...-wrc-for-2025/
That's WRC for you I guess, replacing bad implmentaions of rules with other bad ones....and to make sure they don't change it they announce it just before the end of the year...
Of course they decide all those things at the last moment or too late.
Also regarding the changes for next year: https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/h...ange/10674772/
I see why a qualifying stage could be a good idea, but why would you only let the top 3 participate? Either every rc1 does it, or none.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
And yet that problem would simply be fixed with one tarmac round being put/moved in the middle of season, then we wouldn't needed to have that conversation at all.
Possibly four Rally1 Cars each for Toyota and Hyundai next season ?
https://rallyjournal.com/a-major-rev...as-rally-team/
actually I kinda agree with Millener. that could be a good compromise.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
“There was some discussion of a return to full qualifying, which I wasn’t in favor of because I believe the best drivers will always come to the top and it will be the same few drivers winning qualifying and choosing the best position on the road.
“Is there a compromise? I wondered if we could just do the top three in the championship? The driver who’s in fourth place would have started fourth on the road anyway, so it doesn’t impact on them. This is a good compromise.”
What a load of BS!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wyler
He could say it straight - M Sport Cars are so underdeveloped that they will never reach top 3. Or beter yet, give slower drivers a time handicap...
Quali has been tested and worked well in ERC. Why water it down to just 3? All Rally 1 cars would be the right way to go
WRC and ERC is quite different in this way. In WRC you have only 9-10 cars in the highest class (and only few of them able to fight for podium). Nobody else has a chance to be on top places. Most of the drivers is doing whole championship (ok, this year there were so many with not complete season), so championship standings can work. On the other hand, in ERC you have some regulars and plenty of locals (or guests) who can fight for podium and even a win. So proper qualifying is a need...Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
And if you look in last years in WRC, there was for a long time driver who was above the others (Loeb, Ogier, Rovanpera) so they need to find a way how to allow others to fight with them...