Thank you it was a crazy sessionQuote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
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Thank you it was a crazy sessionQuote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
In SS1Quote:
Originally Posted by Mackie
and the video of it: https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/sta...24463239106847Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
Right, so he was slowest of the R1s on SS2 without overshoot...Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
I fear Mikkelsen has made a grave error taking the part programme on tarmac with Hyundai over the full season with MSport.
No seat time and poor road position on all rallies, bad recipe.
Yeah, he really doesn't look comfortable in the hybrids. I thought after Monte they should enter him in several local rallies in a WRC1 to get seat time, but I don't think they did much of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mackie
I agree, but I wonder did he have much choice? If this is what was on offer...Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
ss1.Quote:
Originally Posted by mackie
Probably he thought the Puma is bad car.. Even if he did good performances this year, he is not guaranteed if he would get full season next year. Although even if FIA will not act quick, there is a chance that WRC could die if Hyundai will not continue.
just compare him to munster, who has done less km's on tarmac than mikkelsen.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
Mikkelsen looks like a paydriver so far this season.
Maybe we should just not have too big expectations of Mikkelsen? He jumps into the car over a long time, he lacks testing days, there is no reason for heroics, there is bad road position etc. We can ask questions about Hyundai for the decision to choose him for the tarmac events, but I don't blame Mikkelsen.
Well, i get it, but a driver with his experience and knowledge on tarmac shouldnt almost get piped by Munster who is miles away from him with experience and seat timeQuote:
Originally Posted by meh
Can’t follow this week. Why so bad times from Tänak so far?
You have to drive a Rally1 a little yourself, and then you´d understand...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyest
Btw; on SS3 Mikkelsen is faster than Munster.
So you can say that milk is sour unless you're a cow yourself? Criticism doesn't work that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
So you can't say that milk is sour unless you're a cow yourself? Criticism doesn't work that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
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Sorry about duplicates, tried to edit the original and forum software thinks I try to reply again.
Ali Turkkan's time in SS1 is absurd, wow, splitting Brynildsen and Ciamin in a Fiesta Rally3. And now Jürgenson faster than Linnamäe and Brynildsen too!
I assume just the dirt due to his road position. except for fourmeaux, the current standings are exactly like the start position.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
We should look separately at overall experience (which is of course valuable), and experience during last year. He is not talented like Loeb or Ogier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyest
Has Munster done fewer km's on tarmac than Mikkelsen in R1?Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
He says that the car feels very nervous, making handling quite challenging. Additionally, the road conditions are getting worse car by car, further complicating matters for the car. In a high-speed tarmac rally characterized by lots of elevation changes, the time loss is very easy to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I see also Mikkelsen with many corrections, the car seems twitchy...Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Ogier comes after Tänak and is 3rd.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
So far, Neuville has achieved a really valuable "road-position trophy" for his good start of the season.
No, i was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mackie
They have both done monte and now croatia, but mikkelsen has also done the Rally Regione Piemonte (rally di alba) last week.
But i forgot that munster has done the central european rally last year, so he has a bit more km's on tarmac, although some longer time ago.
This will be a penalty later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
This is Neuville year; just note those small things that turns to his way, even weather. I hope TN has what it takes to beat Evans for the title ( Tanak so far has not performed as someone who actually has a shot on the title; no signs of any fight either; i hope i am wrong about him, though).
First rallies have been dissapointing for Tänak yes, but i wouldnt say he doesnt have a shot at the title just yet, He never has been as strong on tarmac as Neuville or Evans, and the gravel rallies where he has a starting position advantage are just comingQuote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
That is also true, but not that much compared to his closest rivals for the rally win. With returned starting order, the difference between the 6th and 8th car is not as much as between the 1st and 3rd for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mackie
indeed. ogier, rovanpera and even sordo could take away a lot of points from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Of course we should. He have more than 120 WRC events behind him, even more rallies, 3 WRC wins (remember that half of the grid have none or less), many titles behind his belt, hands on many different cars... at that stage of his career it's not excuse anymore that he is not good for tarmac. He is working again with FX, so he should be better. Why the hell is Sordo with his age still up there, everytime he is behind the wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
I don’t blame him so much for the performance, of course I think he should be better than he is showing, but I do blame him for picking the Hyundai programme over the MSport one. He chose this option, surely he knew that he would be up against it on all the tarmac rallies with road position?Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
You can say after last year, he may have thought that he was doing the right thing, but when you look at the rallies he has been offered and no seat time, it’s turning turtle very quickly.
The Ford isn’t as good as the Hyundai, but for sure he would have a better chance at some good results by doing all the rallies and having decent road position on gravel.
Now that i think about it. Why doesn't hyndai lets mikkelsen do more rallies as a 4th car so he has a good starting position for croatia? I never quite understood why they limit themself to 3 cars, when they could have 4 or even more to take points away from toyota.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
That would only work in Drivers' Championship and I fear that priority for Hyundai is Manufacturers' title.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
i guess the question why Mikkelsen doesn´t promt adapt to asphaltrallies in a Rally1 car is a bit more complicated than deciding quality of milk...Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Your call. ;)
I think that if everone agrees, it could be done. Right now it would throw bad light on M-Sport running two cars almost everywhere, although it's no point at all having four cars. The rules allow only 3 nominated drivers to score points for manufacturer championship. At the star of the season, they were clear they are after driver's title and that they will do anything to do it. Even put Tanak or Neuville aside during the season for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
The point is: don't ask critics to drive Rally1 car before they can say their opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
If you say your opinion you have to be sure it doesn´t look ridiculously.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
I´d rather seen Ostberg or Loeb quoting that, than some guy not having the whole picture.