Toksport 2023 WRC2 dream team!!!
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Toksport 2023 WRC2 dream team!!!
Is Greensmith a driver from your dreams? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber21
It certainly won't be a dream for Chris Ingram having Greensmith taking a car, maybe his car, at Toksport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Ingram has no time for him as a pay driver getting drives, when he has had to struggle so hard to get where he has in rallying.
Toksport has so many drivers this year...
And Greensmith said on wrc's articleQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
"I'll be spending a lot of time in the seat this year, that's for sure."
Quote:
Originally Posted by manthey
Well, that can mean on events he is not doing WRC2 and the Yaris is free he will be giving it a go in Rally1?
Ingram has not the money for a new Fabia for the moment. His plans is to do WRC2 with the Fabia Evo, starting with Monte Carlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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The Toksport CupQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Could turn out to be a blessing in descise. Teething issues could happen to a new model, even for Skoda.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Confirmation of Monte !Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Flyyl-SW...pg&name=medium
Marquito Bulacia confirms his plans - a seven-round programme with Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 in WRC2. He is going to start with Rallye Monte-Carlo and Rally Sweden. The remaining 5 rallies are yet to be confirmed:
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2022/wrc...ls-2023-plans/
How many drivers is Toksport going to have? 3 (Lindholm, Greensmith and Bulacia) or are there more?
Solberg, Gryazin?, Pajari?, Ingram?, Mikkelsen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
all of them it seems. Except Mikkelsen. could be 6-7 cars per rally. Certainly in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
TokSport seems to be taking all the business that used to be M-Sport's....
Quite amazing how Toksport has grown in just a few years. When Chris Ingram joined them in 2019 for his ERC challenge they were hardly known at all for rallying !
Ingram joined them in 2018…
Won't be easy for them.. as all the drivers are very demanding and fighting for the wins every round..
First view of Ingram's livery for Monte Carlo...
https://www.wrc.com/images/redaktion...f_750x420.jpeg
After Skoda Motorsport quit their works team, some of the factory support has supposedly gone towards Toksport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
But it's also good to remember that in 2018 Skoda employed five drivers: Rovanperä, Kopecky, Tidemand, Veiby and Nordgren. And right now, sadly, Skoda is the car to drive in WRC2, everyone knows that you don't have much chances with other cars...
2023 Season Toksport livery:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl4AI01X...jpg&name=large
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#WRC TOKSPORT revealed this afternoon the Skoda Fabia Rally2 TWO Team line-up 2023 with Lindholm/Pajari & Gryazin/Bulacia ► https://bit.ly/3WYM4Yn
Notice that Solberg, Greensmith, Delecour will drive also Skoda Fabia Rally2 TOKSPORT this season. No news from Mikkelsen.
Looks like Ingram retained CarFinance24/7 but they have downgraded their spending. Shame, i liked the orange car!
Toksport; i preferred the lime green livery they ran Mikkelsen and Gryazin with in Lausitz/Devuloy.
The sponsorship reduction means Chris has had to start crowd-funding...Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
https://www.gofundme.com/f/chris-ing...f74852276f542d
I have worked tirelessly to raise further funding to let me compete throughout 2023. However, due to the current economic climate in the UK, it has been extremely difficult to find new brand partners and one of my main partners has had to drop out, despite the progress made in 2022 and World Rally Championship glory being within touching distance.
I now feel I have exhausted every option so have decided to launch this new campaign ahead of Rallye Monte Carlo. I am calling on you to join the Rally Warrior army and support my team on this mission. Every penny of your support will be used towards WRC competition. This campaign will run throughout the WRC 2023 season.
If you can help, I’d be so grateful and honoured to bring you along for the ride!
Thank you
Chris Ingram
With Toksport it might be that they won't have tons of cars, just that they will go with 4-5 to more rallies. With the 7 rally champ limits there were quite a few rallies last year where they had few or no cars.
Also while Fabia seems to be the best allround car you still need a driver, when you have one even a "worse" car can win. See Janer now with Fourmaux or say Croatia last year.
But for Skoda motorsport the main goal is to sell cars, which they succeed with.
Sadly in 2016-2017 it seemed the success would lead to top tier entry, but that got called off. Now I am not quite sure whether the overall effect is positive for WRC, since it takes money from MSport or Hyundai. But C3 Rally2 success would do the same.
I won’t shed any tears for them, it should just drive them to make their own products better.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
It seems now that Skoda give partial support to many drivers instead of full support to one (Mikkelsen) and I think that has to be a good thing for WRC. It’s just a shame there are limited options for those drivers to progress further at the moment.
BTW, it’s quite surprising Solberg is not in one of the two main Toksport teams, but I suppose the deals were already done with the others when he signed up.
The difference with Skoda is that they only make a Rally2 car and can give it 100% priority. Whereas others have a whole range of different rally cars to build and perfect (like M-Sport).Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Sadly it’s probably a problem for Ingram that sponsors, particularly ones who only operate in the UK, don’t get very good exposure from WRC2. Hopefully with maybe sparser WRC1 entries this year the promoter might up their game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Maybe Oliver could take Ingram onboard Toksport 3, and introduce him to the Monster gang, so he gets a full season for once!?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Toksport enters two teams in WRC2 2023:
Team #1:
Emil Lindholm
Sami Pajari
Team #2:
N. Gryazin
Marquito Bulacia
source:
https://twitter.com/toksportwrt/stat...C88ZW3_90sAAAA
So, in which Tok Sport team is Greensmith then?
Separate "team" with his family company as a title sponsor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Managarium
Probably not running as a team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Managarium
Just going for Drivers / Co-driver's championships
Solberg also then outside the teams.
Solberg should be Monster.
We see a trend that drivers who can not get a seat or does not have a healthy bugdet goes down a class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Maybe that would be a good option also for Ingram?
Do a full season in WRC3, and potentially win a title, will give him a better budget in 24.
This guy is European Rally Champion, ERC 2 Wheel Drive Champion, ERC Junior Under 27 Champion, ERC3 Champion and has several other titles from the British championship. I think that in his case a season in WRC3 would only be a waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
still he doesnt have a title starting with W...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
He'll only be Monster if they pay the team registration fee. Otherwise he'll just be 'Oliver Solberg'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
How?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
We will see in Sweden.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Jos Verstappen switched to Škoda Fabia RS Rally2. Didn't announced his program, but I think he will show in some WRC2 events again.