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Originally Posted by katxal
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YesQuote:
Originally Posted by katxal
We are missing last bit of Västervik if anyone local is out for a drive, section after 20.1km, should have turned left.
https://youtu.be/Ot8yuYOWyRE?t=1043
Anyone any recommendations on stages? Plan to drive some on Wenesday but won't get all done
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Norrby beginning :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
Spectator maps are coming, a few up on the Swedish page so far.
Looks like + degrees so lucky I bought a new warm jacket... No rain like shakedown last year hopefully!
https://rallysweden.com/tavlingen/
Norrby looks ok, Sävar is a decent stage, possible to walk in from the main road on scooter tracks, just check them first, new official track by junction right. Lots of yelling for no reason and almost fight at the middle of Brattby in both directions, interesting to see if they have done something by the small jump
Floda from start, I´d say.
First right hander, sure. But walk 500 + meters and it looks also good.
@RallySweden
Just now.. Powestage, Sarsjöliden...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn9BgmRX...jpg&name=large
Sarsjöliden is not even the power stage this year :D
Does anyone know from last year if it is allowed to walk on the snowmobile-specific trails to access the SS?
If anyone has issues with marshals, just make them read the what safety chief Richard Johansson says, you are free to walk anywhere you want due to "allemansrätten" and you do not have to be at spectator areas. Apart from the i20 area at Umeå of course, scared me when i turned the corner and met two guys with guns last year...
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...47881198619767
For the scooter tracks i don't know but don't see why not other than being a bit in the way, just walked some un-official last year.
Referring to the i20 Area, that is prohibited, you are referring to the one that appears in this map as military area, right? I mean, if we stay away from this area, we can spectate the Umea stages without being in the official spectating spots (for example de Red barn arena)?
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Yeah we tried driving straight through the military area to the northern part of the long stage because it was open earlier in the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by jparerax7
The northern part of the stage was fine to spectate last year, they were making a new road up there close to the new start so not sure how it looks now though, walked in from under this bridge.
This is from April https://www.google.com/maps/@63.8712...7i16384!8i8192
Is published entrylist similar to startlist? Should be standings from RMC, wouldn´t it?
No published startlist from organizer made me wonder...
The start list for section 1 + 2 will be published at 14:00 on the 9th on the notice board.
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries...y-sweden-2023/
You can see the running order here
Thanks guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Actually I saw it on EWRC.
Otepaa Talveralli 2023, Estonia, Ott Tanak testing for WRC Rally Sweden 2023. Some off's and Serderidis spin.
KKSF HD video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84iPFx6WHxg
Conditions on the Norrby stage, looking nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mPupS058zo
the old worthless sack of fat serderidis is losing to a rally4 cars... but hey we have a rally1 car on the stages to satisfy the drroling autists that count rally1 cars... reminds me of the mentally retarded people that count trains on train stations...Quote:
Originally Posted by KKSF
I think the FIA can easily exclude him for bringing the sport into disrepute...
He speaks highly of you as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOT
had a chat with him before regroup at Otepää, and he really is a awesome guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOT
And to all the haters that say he is slow, i doubt any of you would be half as fast as he is. If i had the money i would be doing the same thing.
Calling him what you did just now, not even gonna write it again, because FIA cant figure out the gentleman driver system in their running order makes you look stupid. i dont think you even deserve a reply from anyone, and if i would be a moderator i would send you to a vacation from this forum...getting that personal about someone on a friendly rallying forum is retarded
Rallyest, you just don't know NOT. Many have him on their ignore lists for his unique expressive language.
The Gentlemen Rally1 drivers topic should be on The Bar and discussion thread. Can it pls be removed from Rally Sweden thread?
I´m not keen to say I love the present situation having an old chap as myself driving in the top ten order. Especially not Sweden with narrow snowbanks and very fast sections. If I were in Mr S´ situation I´d concentrate on giving young promising drivers the opportunity to develop at higher levels, instead of having the pleasure to embarrase myself.
However the problem must be solved in some way later on. But can´t happen this week...
Well said. And even though I don't like watching Serderidis driving on WRC+, I have nothing personally against the guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
He won't drive in Sweden. Heard that Tanak just invited him to Estonia and drive a nice winter rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Yes. My bad. Actually took him for granted in Sweden as well. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
In Sweden you will have cpt Bertorelli
When watching vids from Swe upcoming stages, must admit - unfortunately boring roads around Umeå; possibly Östersund would have been able to offer smth more interesting. Hard to compare with good old Karlstad region roads.
About gent-drivers: this is clear on FIA table - out of balance situation - overcrowded Rally 2 category with very few top category seats.
Overcrowded Rally 2? What does that even mean? I think Rally2 is in a very healthy situation at the moment. We have multiple drivers who can win, multiple manufacturers whose car can win. This is the situation we want in Rally1.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
For Rally Sweden 2023, I see six drivers fighting for WRC2 win, and one of them is driving an old car (Huttunen). If anyone else wins, it's a surprise. I would say it's the same number in the main class. As for manufacturers, I'm surprised if it's not a Skoda, Hyundai or VW winning WRC2.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
And when we go to the next rally, it won't be the same six WRC2 drivers fighting for the win.
I´d wait to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
Karlstad/Värmland region offered even faster roads than Finland. So there are interesting places where ever you go. Agree though Östersund would´ve been greatest solution.
My bad, wrong wording - the point was that the talent from R2 has no seats in R1, even in forseenable future, thus they get stucked there, while free-seats goes to Gent-drivers. Situation out of balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Yes but Serderidis would/could drive even if M-Sport had three or four "normal" drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
Värmland roads had more character than in Umeå. There were crests and corners, variations on the roads from wide to narrow. Now we have just endless super fast forest roads - even two 25 km stages made up completely of them - but very little wide roads with crests and flowing bends. There's barely any jumps or crests anywhere. Also Värmland had awesome technical sections like the beginning of Vargåsen, without being super narrow between the trees like most of the technical sections in Umeå. At best, the Umeå roads resemble Arctic Rally Finland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Unpopular idea: may be Rally Est would be better run in the winter untill swedes find smth more appropriate? Otepaa in winter would be rally wonderland.
Roads are nice in general but we are also very dependent on the weather as was Värmland area. We were quite lucky actually now to have 3-4 days of cold and winter because before that and now we have spring again with + degrees.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
Though I wouldn't be against it at all
Yeah, Estonia would be prone to same warm conditions as Värmland? Even more South than Torsby, and closer to sea.
Norway?
Yes, we are more prone to warm weatherQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
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It's not like any of the gentleman drivers today takes up any spots that otherwise would've gone to a big talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Last year they chose Umeå before Östersund.
But - Östersund really got all of Värmland and Umeå together...