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Jack Benyon wrote the articles in Autosport and Motorsport News (he was stepping in for David Evans as the main British journo for this rally) and he also said the same comment in the Absolute Rally podcast. Good to acknowledge that all these three sources are actually the one same source.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Julian Porter said on the new WRC pod that Tanak's next contract could be his last. He doesnt see Tanak continuing for years and years and one more 2-3 year deal could be it for him. And he thinks money isnt a big factor for him anymore.
If so its a really, really big decision for him to get right.
Pure speculation i believe.
For what reason it could be last contract for Tanak? He tired-up in rallying and want more time with kids and other speculative stuff?
I thought as you passioned in rally - u would drive as long as you competitive.
I haven't heard him talking about retirement or stop rallying any time soon. But you can not underestimate family priority - it's a clear factor. For example Hirvonen - wanted to be more time with boys and he was still happy to report his happy family life previously in WRC+ live studio (whenever it was).Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
yes, he hasnt talked about it on inernational media but in the beginning of the year, many interviews on estonian media he said soon the kids need him more than ever and he isnt planning to hang around forever in the series, sayin hed like to drive for couple of more years.
At one point he had said that on many interviews that i already thought this year will be his last but then, i think it was on autosport interview where he said he isnt stopping if he wins the title.
In his movie he says he considers his career fail if he doesnt win a title. The guy is an absolute maximalist and his determination is just unbelievable. You have to see the movie to understand it better and i hope you can see it soon.
Tänak also turns 32 this year. After a three year contract he would be 35, which is a quite high age for current rally drivers.
Tanak/Ogier etc could win titles or challenge for them into their early 40s. Shame they both don't want to stay that long
Personally, I would prefer them to move on and let some youngsters progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
I would even more prefer for a youngster to raise to their level in the upcoming years and push them of the throne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Mail
Tänak retiring? Huh? I always saw him as a young guy. He's only just started getting good. WRC has a fundamental problem if its best drivers can't be bothered to stick around.
Looking at the current field it's quite hard to see that as an issue in WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
Tanak may be happy once he's achieved the WDC and defended it. I certainly dont see that he would want to attempt to match the Seb's in the number WDC wins.
He also has his OT Racing team and could be satisfied running that and helping others to make the WRC...
I still see Tanak in the wrc for another 4/5yrs. Probably two more contracts
And what is often lost in this discussion, is that it's one thing to talk about retirement and completely different thing to actually do it. In all sports, the greats often talk about it ("I'm gonna walk out before I'm 30"), but not that many actually walk the walk.
What the dmack you are talking about him retiring? :D once he gets his first WDC, its time to earn money and secure his future..
if 2nd or 3rd WDC comes, it good, but it doesn't really make any difference if you are 2, 3 or 4 times WDC..
It's basically impossible to reach Loeb's achievement and at the end rallying may be fun and awesome to watch, but it is still a job to do and if we are talking about salaries that are between 5-10mil euros, then at the end of the day, you have to use that chance and secure your future
He is already doing that...being a co-owner of MM-Motorsport is one example. Can`t compare with family-time. Although unless he says it himself, pure speculation.
Ogier has been full time for a very pong time now, and until you have done all the travelling, testing, recce notes, PR appearances etc you cannot possibly know what it takes out of you, your personal life, relationships etc.
How Loeb did it for so long I have no idea, .
For me Ogier might do another year after 2020 if they can't fix the car, and then for me he is the best, Loeb won it in a car that was always designed round him, Ogier to win it in three types of car is simply a bigger achievement against more competition, if he can do it.
Quite frankly, even to so what he has done already edges it for me.
Tanak retiring, pure nonsense!! He might move but would be daft to just yet. But he does seem rather perplexed byt he fame, the interest, seems a quiet man, no interested in anything other than driving, unlike most top line drivers.
I don't think anyone is claiming Tänak would retire now. He just might be now looking for a contract with the team that he will drive with until his retirement.
To me it seems that in Tänak's interest is to sign a short contract, rather than a long one. He is clearly one of the fastest drivers right now, so it is very likely he will be able to negotiate good terms next year as well. It is completely opposite situation compared to what he was facing 2 years ago - right now it is the team's interest to sign him for as long as possible.
In his place I would sign Toyota for 1 year. Right now Toyota is working for him - despite the lottery factor due to unreliability he has a considerable lead. A longterm commitment with unreliable car would not be smart however. I would give them 12 months to try and sort it out and then re-evaluate the situation
https://twitter.com/DaniSordo/status...77880440328192
Sordo says "see you next year in Cordoba"
The other aspect is the new Regs from 2022. Who knows how Tanak might feel about driving the new hybrid cars or which team will be the best to make and develop them. It could be his ideal stepping off point.
Could we do a pickems in 2020 for who is going to be driving for Hyundai each round 😋
You have a lot of drivers to pick from. Like hundreds...
M-Sport believes its current driver Teemu Suninen can mature into as strong a #WRC contender as points leader Ott Tanak.
https://t.co/6nONq1NPmx
Suninen to stay at M-Sport in 2020 seems pretty definite.
Or he's trying to sell Suninen into other teams, with a share of the salary in mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Maybe he means the one in his native Spain?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Explain how that would work ?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I think a few drivers have (or had) it in their contracts that if a team gives them the initial leg up into the championship, that team gets a percentage of their future earnings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I may be wrong, but I’m sure Latvala and Tanak have gone through that process.
Normally driving with M-Sport would require bringing money in. But if the team wants to invest in the driver, they let him drive without bringing the money, but at the same time they make a deal that when the driver gets in a factory team and gets paid, a part of the salary goes to M-Sport, to pay back the investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
But this is all speculation, whether this kind of deals even exist.
It's well known that drivers that Malcolm invests in then have to pay that back out of future earnings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Latvala, Tanak (now), Neuville (still), Evans (if he leaves) all pay back.
For sure such deals exist. Basically that's just like having a co-management contract, where in addition to paying e.g Jouhki a fee from your salary you also cut off a percentage to Malcolm/M-Sport.
More of that "marketing talk", now for Elfyn as well
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...ans-or-suninen
I knew this, I just didnt get how you had phrased it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
"Elfyn and Teemu will form part of the team, for sure," Wilson told Autosport.
"We've made big investments in both of them so it would be crazy to let someone else get that benefit."
So MW is crazy then Antti ?
Same article: "If Ott's not here the intention would be that they both form part of the team moving forward."Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
You’re being selective in your quotations Eddie.
The truth is, nobody is signed yet. Wilson wants Tanak and reading the Autosport article, fully, indicates that Suninen or Evans may go if Tanak arrives. Wilson will do whatever he can to generate the funds to get Tanak onboard and by talking up Suninen and Evens, he potentially increases their value to other teams, which will mean M-Sport get more revenue through salary pay-back.
Nothing set in stone yet, not until contracts are signed, so I wouldn't be so definite in claiming they are going to stay at M-Sport.
It’s Wilson’s games. Just like he said at the end of last year that they cannot continue in 2019. And just like Hyundai plays games by ”being interested in Tänak”
Probaly no-one will sign before Tänak, if he leave TGR there is one space open ...
Kalle is not option for TGR 1st driver.
Yep; despite team managers alleged will to get driver A or B, most likely the only major line-up change will be Meeke or Latavala replacement by Rovanpera.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
M.Wilson doesnt need to 'talk-up' Evans or Suninen. I'm sure they could both find seats one way or another if they were to be surplus to requirements at M-Sport.