Who are these people so sure that Lappi will be faster than Paddon, who came 5th in Deutschland last year? And for that matter, Lappi over Breen and Evans? He wins in Finland and now he's a tarmac ace?Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
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Who are these people so sure that Lappi will be faster than Paddon, who came 5th in Deutschland last year? And for that matter, Lappi over Breen and Evans? He wins in Finland and now he's a tarmac ace?Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Lappi won WRC2 in Deutchland last year, that's something...Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
Kind of... but not much. He beat Jan Kopecky, on tarmac that isn't nothing, but then what? Jose Suarez, Armin Kremer, Yoann Bonato?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
thats doesnt mean much...Tänak won in PWRC class back in the day too... and looking back at the results you have to admit the competition wasnt great with only Kopecky being real contender who had a puncture already on the second stage, after first day Lappi was second, 28 secs behind Kremer.
im not saying he wont do good but i wouldnt get my hopes that up.
The odds are from onebet. Posted them just for fun cause as I wrote they make money on speculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
Paddon was 5th last year yes, second last WRC only slower one was Østberg, he was also 3 mins behind everyone else, based on this list I'd give him some 1:50. I agree Lappi might be slightly over-estimated in that list, something like 1:25 is what he would get from me.
We must also consider that Paddon hasn't even finished many events this year while Lappi has only had one retirement out of four rallies and one win.
And don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting a podium from Lappi, it's his first tarmac event on a WRC car.
Can anybody recommend some places to see some cuts and fast slidings?
Same as above. First time at rally Germany. Any good reccomendations for a first time spectator. Also thinking of skipping Sunday to give the wife a day for her haha. Any good places to visit near the rally. Willing to drive 2-3 hours.
Canīt help you with spectator points as I didnīt attend the rally for ages now. But if you look for places your wife may also like there are many possibilities: bigger cities like Heidelberg or Metz, smaller cities like Idar-Oberstein or Bernkastel-Kues, the Alsace region...Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
How about Trier? ;) I've been to both Heidelberg and Bernkastel-Kues. Both are nice but very crowded, especially Heidelberg as it attracts many Asian tourists.Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
Totally forgot about Trier ;). By the way, Mads Ostberg confirmed that he drops Germany: http://www.madsostberg.no/Home/PressArticle/1151Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
http://www.madsostberg.no/Home/PressArticle/1151
Østberg skips Deutschland after all because of the problems in Rzezow
Ostberg has come back down to earth with a bump this season. Privateer budget but factory expectations.
I hope he can push through a get a programme going into next year. He's looking long-term with co-drivers but you have to wonder how long he'll keep it up.
Nürburgring is a 2h drive. There's a touristenfahrten session from 8AM till 19PMQuote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
It's not looking good for Ostberg tbh. There are enough highly rated young drivers coming in that he probably can't get a works drive again, at least not without bringing money. I think he's done with top level WRC and will just appear as a privateer occasionally.
I thought he prefers his own team to the works teamsQuote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I guess he could get another car (Skoda i.e) if he really wanted to drive.
Maybe the money is running out... ��
I get the impression it is more likely his motivation is running out.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallye-vid
Citroen's press release http://int-media.citroen.com/en/retu...3%ABn%20Racing
Teemu / Rallirinki*@HartusvuoriWRC
#RallyeDeutschland new service park in #Bostalsee is not looking massively tempting at the moment. More rain forecasted for the event.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHH_XRPXsAAqIE1.jpg
After doing much worse than their pre-event goals for half a year and issuing self-contradicting goals for Finland they now entered the next stage... not saying anything about their target.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
The only mention is for Breen in top 5 which imo is quite optimistic seeing his minimal Germany experience (2x only and 0 times in WRC).
Apart from that and the list of previous best germany results from the drivers, the single interesting statement is Mikkelsen saying this was first time he did any testing on Baumholder in his career.
It will look epic when rally cars will get pulled by tractors around the servicepark to avoid getting stuck in mud on slicks.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
M-Sport have worst problem... inside too
https://scontent.fopo2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...46&oe=5A280D35
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No rally then. Canīt believe they manage this without building new proper gravel roads in the SP.
Maybe some gravel will solve it
Well they have at least 3 days with little activity to solve it. Some plastic mats and/or some gravel goes a long way and the top teams can afford some (small) expense. Doesn't change the fact that the service park placement is epic and will be terrible for teams with lower budget.
What a mess. I can't remember that is was so terrible at Bostalsee when it rains. I was there in, I guess, 2005.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
What they need now is iron plates, so the cars can drive safe. Like this, they used it for construction work or other events normally:
http://www.madebyyou.be/janhandel/im...st%20F%201.JPG
Great suggestions. We will look at all options, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
until he realises that being 30 and having a job depending on daddys pockets is a disgrace....Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
https://toyotagazooracing.com/releas...0-preview.html
Toyota's press release. Not setting too high targets, Lappi and Latvala satisfied with top 5, main objective is to develop the car on tarmac.
Toyota's outlook seems realistic to me.
weather forecast now showing rain only on friday, at first it showed on thursday too...if it rains on friday then i predict that Neuville and Ogier will just run away from others, not that it would be that much different when it is dry but this season and every rally surprises so my predictions are often wrong.
Curious to see how dmack has developed within a year, they were quite good for their standards last year. i have stopped expecting much from Paddon, it just seems to me he will never get grips with tarmac.
Forecast is certainly evolving it seems. I really doubt the entire rally will go rain-free.
I've planned out a few potential spots. Flying out Weds morning. Really looking forward to it.
Brendan Reeves*@BrendoRally 2h
2 hours ago
Looking good @HMSGOfficial now the sun is out @OfficialWRC Germany.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHMJ_08VwAEmA8B.jpg
Teemu / Rallirinki*@HartusvuoriWRC 26m
#WRC2 driver Gus Greensmith is reported to have a minor crash on today's pre-event test. All should be okey for #RallyeDeutschland.
wrc2 testing
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHMMYBYWAAAaRcN.jpg
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHMMZv7XkAESFW-.jpg
Rain on Friday will be a bit of a letdown. As you say Ogier and Neuville will likely pull away both due to experience/speed but also due to dirt making the road very slippery for late starters and due to C3 issues on low grip surfaces.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Best from a rallyfan perspective would be dry on Friday (so we get some nice comparison and not many retirements) and rain on Saturday afternoon or Sunday to introduce some late-drama once positions are settled.
not quite convincing argument for the withdrawal.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-rally-germany