Their only strategy seems to be who can pay the most £$£$£$£$ gets a round. And you end up with what they've got. A pretty uninspiring series. Serves them right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
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Their only strategy seems to be who can pay the most £$£$£$£$ gets a round. And you end up with what they've got. A pretty uninspiring series. Serves them right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Acropolis wanted to go to WRC and hoped for it, but no chance for next year against Poland and Turkey. So yes, they will stay in ERC.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber21
But how do they want to break even when they make two rallies go bankrupt (Ireland and Austria) and another one gets canceled (Estonia)?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
It is not only because of Eurosport. Reasons for finish of Janner and Estonia are mainly about problems in organisation team...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
They broke themselves. They knew what is going on when they overpaid other events to take the place in the calendar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Draft version of ERC calendar 2017 - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=18582
Condroz looks like a shoe-in for the final slot on the calendar.
How likely is it we will end with 9/10 events PLuto?
The Azorean press has told this night FIA released the ERC calendar today but reading Autosport.cz I see this is not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Some continue to make use of news without mentioning the source like always...
In Autosport.pt
http://www.autosport.pt/ralis/erc/er...ralis-de-2017/
During today morning should be published draft version of ERC calendar 2017. But I think there will be no big news comparing to calendar published previous week. We will still need to wait until approval from WMSC at the end of November.
2017 ERC calendar so far with 4 gravel & 4 asphalt events, and Eurosport Events will consider adding a maximum of two more events. https://t.co/x2RX1s6ZGk
So nothing new, we are in same situation like last week ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
That Central European tarmac event as last round could be Waldviertel Rally (or Mecsek Rally, but they don't have enough money for ERC as far as I know)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
But Waldviertel Rallye is on mixed surface.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
No Waldviertel or Mecsek. "Central Europe" means in mainland. As it was told many times, it should be Condroz...
Curious what the 2nd event will be?
Could it be Terre de Causses? French gravel rally that always runs the first weekend of April. I hope so, because normally I will go there!
Like I wrote last week, unfortunatelly I am afraid that it will be not so interesting event...Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Nice to see Acropolis in June (last year took place in October) and Cyprus Rally also in June (this year was the last event)! I think Cyprus rally this year produced some exciting rally photos. I believe it is a beautiful location with great special stages and it should be promoted more effectively.
Impossible to have a French gravel event (counting for French championship) in ERC, there are too much differences in terms of regulations, impossible to make a compromise I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
New step in ERC Junior format
https://www.fiaerc.com/new-step-in-e...r-progression/
Good move, although I think the 100,000 Euro prize would only buy one or two ERC events with an R5 car?Quote:
Originally Posted by RICARDO75
Grzegorz Grzyb on ERC 2017. Azores not included because is to early for him
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/grzyb-...em-w-erc,72437
FIA European Rally Championship
A second title has been created within the ERC Junior Championship for drivers under the age of 28 competing in R5 cars. The winner will be awarded a drive in a WRC car by the Promoter for one FIA World Rally Championship event the following season.
The 2017 FIA European Rally Championship calendar is:
31 March – 2 April Rallye Açores*
4-6 May Rally Islas Canarias*
2-4 June Acropolis Rally */***
16-18 June Cyprus Rally
3-5 August Rally Rzeszow, Poland
25-27 August Barum Czech Rally Zlin
15-17 September Rally di Roma Capitale
6-8 October Liepaja* (same date for WRC Rally Spain)
*Subject to ASN confirmation
***Subject to Event Promotion Agreement
Some good changes for next year, including the smaller calendar with a proper 50/50 surface split.
The teams championship should be attractive to teams like SRT and Castrol Ford Turkey and the new prizes for the Junior Championships are a step forward too.
Now let's hope the drivers come..
Calendar is not bad. I should only switch one (or two) island event for mainland rally.
Will that be in a pre-2017 WRC[ar] or...?Quote:
Originally Posted by RICARDO75
2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
So according to news in the R5 thread, Gemini have bought themselves a Fiesta R5.
Let's hope we see them in ERC 2017 with Bouffier again. They already did three rounds together this year so three more and they can mount a championship challenge..
I don't know if it was posted here already or not. I found an interview with Alain Penasse, one of th organizers of Ypres Rally, in which he explains why they don't want to be in the ERC anymore.
Some important fragments:
"(...) there are too many rallies on the islands which make it very difficult for a privateer team to cope with because of the huge cost and workload of that."
(...)
“We have to get more centralised rallies, maybe one in England, one in France, one in Belgium and maybe one in Greece or one in Eastern Europe, but not like it is now."
“The championship is too much spread out. It is more complicated logistically to do European championship than to do European rounds in the World Championship, in fact. You have to go to Azores, to Grand Canarias, you have to go to Cyprus, as well as going to Greece.”
More details at http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home...happy-with-erc
Is that why for so many years the ERC was 11,000 rounds per season with different coefficients so that competitors could pick and choose the events that suited them?
Feel free to shoot me down as being ridiculous and unrealistic but would a dividing the ERC regionally - a la the European Rally Trophy but not with 8 different divisions, maybe 2 or 3?
For God's sake not that.
Jack4688, who do you think would care about it? TBH, without checking result sites, I´m unable to quickly remember even ERT 2016 winner, not to speak about zones
The ERT in recent years has been a major failure and the FIA with the ERT by zones that invented for 2016 only came to worsen.
That isn't the point I was making. ERT is unknown because no one cares about a sub-ERC championship created for god knows what reason and with zero promotionQuote:
Originally Posted by kure91
Well, all this doesn´t really change in 2017. ERC comes to European mainland firstly after 4 rallies, 5 out of 8 are in the peripheral area of Europe, Western Europe is totally ignored.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Czech driver Karel Kupec announced to do the complete JERC.
Is that a good or bad thing...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Is a new driver commited for full season a bad thing? He has very little experience but looks promissing.
Ok WUF, the geo distribution may not be the best one, but that doesn’t mean Penasse is right on blaming island events for ERC troubles. Açores has become the most iconic ERC rally (I imagine he got mad about it…) and Cyprus is an ERC classic. For sure we’ll miss Ireland (that can be back one of this days) and an event in France or Italy, but the calendar is not that bad and the cut to 8 events was a good move.Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
The island events are a trouble for most of the teams. That is a fact.