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27th April 2016, 15:26
AL14

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Originally Posted by Nornbugger

What is a promes? I've googled it but I'm sure you do not mean anything to do with a Dutch born footballer who plays for Spartak Moscow?

Lol, yes, I meant promise. Forgive my poor english ;)
27th April 2016, 19:57
Mintexmemory

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Originally Posted by AL14

Lol, yes, I meant promise. Forgive my poor english ;)

It's fine - Nornbugger doesn't speak english either!!! Also his Italian is terrible!
27th April 2016, 20:57
Nornbugger

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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory

It's fine - Nornbugger doesn't speak english either!!! Also his Italian is terrible!

Un grande hawaiano si prega

Non è un problema

Un grande hawaiano si prega :-)
27th April 2016, 21:06
Mintexmemory

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Originally Posted by Nornbugger

Un grande hawaiano si prega

Non è un problema

Un grande hawaiano si prega :-)

Molte bene - amico mio
28th April 2016, 09:43
AL14

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Originally Posted by Nornbugger

Un grande hawaiano si prega

Non è un problema

Un grande hawaiano si prega :-)

LOL, your italian is very "PROMESing" ;)
28th April 2016, 10:32
ArtooDetoo

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Originally Posted by AL14

We already know where we are. Paddon started sunday with a 30 seconds gap and finished with 12. Curb your enthusiasm, we are in front of a promes, not a reality. Still long way to go but yes, in the future he could be a real t[h]reat.

By all means be critical, but Paddon had a 14+ second gap, not 12 seconds. And given that Ogier has significantly more experience at the top level of the sport and in this event specifically, Paddon's win over the world champ can easily be seen as a lot more than "promes", despite the Frenchman's reducing the lead by 16 seconds on the final day.

You're right that Paddon has much capacity to improve in the future. But as the power stage of Rally Argentina proved, it's clear he doesn't have such a "long way to go" as you say... no?

Or did I miss something?
28th April 2016, 12:01
Marcco

Looking from Paddons point of view before last stage: He just lost 20 sec to Ogier on previous stage and got just couple seconds left... Seems like Ogier is pushing for the win... He had an argument with Ogier the day before... plenty of things to get stressed... and what happens? BOOM! He wins by 11sec.

What does that tell you about Paddon? Doesn't matter if he is not that experienced or fast enough yet... guy has guts... and he wants glory... and he achieved everything he wanted until now.

I think we are looking at future WRC champ (well if not, at least he'll make Ogier run for his money trying to become one).
28th April 2016, 15:32
AL14

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Originally Posted by ArtooDetoo

By all means be critical, but Paddon had a 14+ second gap, not 12 seconds. And given that Ogier has significantly more experience at the top level of the sport and in this event specifically, Paddon's win over the world champ can easily be seen as a lot more than "promes", despite the Frenchman's reducing the lead by 16 seconds on the final day.

You're right that Paddon has much capacity to improve in the future. But as the power stage of Rally Argentina proved, it's clear he doesn't have such a "long way to go" as you say... no?

Or did I miss something?

Long or not there is still a way to go. whether it is long, short or a medium one we don't know, or it is just a matter of what are our standards of short and long ways. ;)

I just wanted to point out to all the enthusiastic result-oriented people that their enthusiasm maybe was just too much... But that together with them I share the opinion (and the hope) that Paddon could be a threat (in the future).
Luckily Paddon himself agree with me. :)
28th April 2016, 15:49
Rallyper

So enthusiastic over what Paddon achieved last Sunday is too much?? No, no, no it was absolutely a sensation knowing what Ogier done in the past for every PS.

For now we have to wait and see what´s coming next time in Portugal.
28th April 2016, 19:11
Mariusz

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

So enthusiastic over what Paddon achieved last Sunday is too much?? No, no, no it was absolutely a sensation knowing what Ogier done in the past for every PS.

For now we have to wait and see what´s coming next time in Portugal.

On the other hand, Paddon was really concentrating on El Condor during his rally preparations and he knew how to take every corner of the stage. I'm not saying that this wasn't a great performance by Hayden, because it was, but I think he caught Ogier by surprise with this kind of driving. And this idea isn't exactly new because if I remember it right McRae and Makinen were also doing it by preparing one stage to drive it almost by heart.
Anyway, I'm very happy that we may have another contender for a rally win. Before it was just Latvala if he hit a perfect mindset in the rally weekend, but the more fast drivers the better.
28th April 2016, 19:33
Francis44

Some of you are forgetting Paddon stalled the car 3 times because the engine was misfiring before the PS, Ogier is still the man to beat obviously.
28th April 2016, 21:49
Munkvy

Going to make for a great last day in the next few rounds if Ogier and Paddon are near each other on the podium going into the last day... Which is exactly what this sport needs.
28th April 2016, 22:23
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Munkvy

Going to make for a great last day in the next few rounds if Ogier and Paddon are near each other on the podium going into the last day... Which is exactly what this sport needs.

Its good i have some leftovers of lassie in the fridge then...
28th April 2016, 22:31
ArtooDetoo

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Originally Posted by AL14

I just wanted to point out to all the enthusiastic result-oriented people that their enthusiasm maybe was just too much... But that together with them I share the opinion (and the hope) that Paddon could be a threat (in the future).

I guess the difference between us here is that your view is more cautious. The "enthusiastic result-oriented people", in their defence, have also been witness to Paddon's rapid and consistent improvement, even on his least-favoured surface, tarmac. That rate of improvement, should it continue, makes it easy to feel optimistic about his championship potential. I'm sure you'll agree that as yet there's no sign of a plateau in his performance overall, despite the occasional stumble.

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Originally Posted by AL14

Luckily Paddon himself agree with me. :)

That's a good point - Hayden is by character a modest guy, something that is quite unusual among high-achieving risk-takers like race drivers. So he always expresses himself in character, but one thing that he repeats regularly is that he isn't in the WRC to make up the numbers, and he believes that he will one day be World Champion. That's the total focus of his efforts.

The clear difference between you and me is that I believe he'll succeed, based on what he's done and continues to do, whereas you aren't convinced.

There's another conversation to be had about how Hayden has traveled compared to Mikkelsen and Meeke, and where they'll be relative to each other by the end of next season. :)

Thanks for the comments.
29th April 2016, 01:12
Toyoda

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Originally Posted by ArtooDetoo

I guess the difference between us here is that your view is more cautious. The "enthusiastic result-oriented people", in their defence, have also been witness to Paddon's rapid and consistent improvement, even on his least-favoured surface, tarmac. That rate of improvement, should it continue, makes it easy to feel optimistic about his championship potential. I'm sure you'll agree that as yet there's no sign of a plateau in his performance overall, despite the occasional stumble.

That's a good point - Hayden is by character a modest guy, something that is quite unusual among high-achieving risk-takers like race drivers. So he always expresses himself in character, but one thing that he repeats regularly is that he isn't in the WRC to make up the numbers, and he believes that he will one day be World Champion. That's the total focus of his efforts.

The clear difference between you and me is that I believe he'll succeed, based on what he's done and continues to do, whereas you aren't convinced.

There's another conversation to be had about how Hayden has traveled compared to Mikkelsen and Meeke, and where they'll be relative to each other by the end of next season. :)

Thanks for the comments.

Interesting talking to John K at the Airport.
He said he had memorised the last stage in Argentina and told me a story about Paddon wanting to fix some notes in rally Otago, John suggested at lunch and Hayden was like, why not now in the car, he then rattled off the 90km morning stage notes and the changes he wanted. Seems like he has a great memory and work ethic,
29th April 2016, 01:45
ArtooDetoo

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Originally Posted by Toyoda

Interesting talking to John K at the Airport.
He said he had memorised the last stage in Argentina and told me a story about Paddon wanting to fix some notes in rally Otago, John suggested at lunch and Hayden was like, why not now in the car, he then rattled off the 90km morning stage notes and the changes he wanted. Seems like he has a great memory and work ethic,

Even Hayden's harshest critics wouldn't dream of questioning his work ethic. He's reminiscent of superstars from other sports who routinely credit their success not with some extraordinary ability (although there's certainly some element of that) but in the work they put in to ensure they're the best they can be when it's needed. :)

Good anecdote Toyoda. Wish I'd been able to make the airport greet. Still, there should be plenty of other welcomings in the future, I expect, even if not quite as momentous as the last one.

Cheers.
29th April 2016, 02:37
janvanvurpa

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Originally Posted by ArtooDetoo

Even Hayden's harshest critics wouldn't dream of questioning his work ethic. He's reminiscent of superstars from other sports who routinely credit their success not with some extraordinary ability (although there's certainly some element of that) but in the work they put in to ensure they're the best they can be when it's needed. :)

Good anecdote Toyoda. Wish I'd been able to make the airport greet. Still, there should be plenty of other welcomings in the future, I expect, even if not quite as momentous as the last one.

Cheers.

Hang on. 'arshest critics? What's all this then? who th' fawk could be a harsh critic of Paddon? He's too young to have done anything to be critical about....Something kept under wraps down there?

And just a little note.....ANY honest professional in any endeavor sporting, business, academic, any---if they are honest----will tell you that their results are "probably a result of the thousands of hours put into it".....and I'm quoting myself from 25-27 years ago in a different sport...
That's why while its literally thousands of hours, it better be some fun to sustain the spirit...

And it does look like Paddon's having some fun.

(Now I'm holding my thumbs for the next Dubya Arsey hoping he has the always needed little dose of good luck so he can barrow-- in reverse--- the epic lines from the historic film and "taunt Ogier a second time"
God what I'd give to see Paddon delivering to Ogier something like this.
In reverse mind you: Ogier= Arthur... Paddon = Guard
Scene MTC before service

ARTHUR: Halt! Hello! Hello!
GUARD: 'Allo! Who is zis?
ARTHUR: It is King Arthur, and these are my Knights of the Round Table. Who's castle is this?
GUARD: This is the castle of my master, Guy de Loimbard!
ARTHUR: Go and tell your master that we have been charged by God with a sacred quest. If he will give us food and shelter for the night he can join us in our quest for the Holy Grail.
GUARD: Well, I'll ask him, but I don't think he'll be very keen. Uh, he's already got one, you see?
ARTHUR: What?
GALAHAD: He says they've already got one!
ARTHUR: Are you sure he's got one?
GUARD: Oh, yes, it's very nice-a (I told him we already got one)
ARTHUR: Well, um, can we come up and have a look?
GUARD: Of course not! You are English types-a!
ARTHUR: Well, what are you then?
GUARD: I'm French! Why do think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king!
GALAHAD: What are you doing in England?
GUARD: Mind your own business!
ARTHUR: If you will not show us the Grail, we shall take your castle by force!
GUARD: You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! ---Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur-king, you and all your silly English knnnniggets. Thppppt!
GALAHAD: What a strange person.
ARTHUR: Now look here, my good man!
GUARD: I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper!...... I fart in your general direction! . Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
GALAHAD: Is there someone else up there we could talk to?
GUARD: No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a!
ARTHUR: Now, this is your last chance. I've been more than reasonable.
GUARD: Fetche lavache!
GUARD: Quoi?
GUARD: Fetche lavache!
[moo!]
ARTHUR: If you do not agree to my commands, then I shall-- [twang] [moooooooooooooooooooooooooo]Jesus Christ! Right! Charge!
ALL: Charge!
[Knights charge]
GUARD: Ah, this one is for your mother!
[twang]
ALL: Run away!
GUARD: Thpppt!

You can click on the lines for the full sound effect---in reverse, eh?
29th April 2016, 06:21
GigiGalliNo1

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29th April 2016, 09:16
AL14

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Originally Posted by ArtooDetoo

I guess the difference between us here is that your view is more cautious. The "enthusiastic result-oriented people", in their defence, have also been witness to Paddon's rapid and consistent improvement, even on his least-favoured surface, tarmac. That rate of improvement, should it continue, makes it easy to feel optimistic about his championship potential. I'm sure you'll agree that as yet there's no sign of a plateau in his performance overall, despite the occasional stumble.

That's a good point - Hayden is by character a modest guy, something that is quite unusual among high-achieving risk-takers like race drivers. So he always expresses himself in character, but one thing that he repeats regularly is that he isn't in the WRC to make up the numbers, and he believes that he will one day be World Champion. That's the total focus of his efforts.

The clear difference between you and me is that I believe he'll succeed, based on what he's done and continues to do, whereas you aren't convinced.

There's another conversation to be had about how Hayden has traveled compared to Mikkelsen and Meeke, and where they'll be relative to each other by the end of next season. :)

Thanks for the comments.

I never said I did not believe in Paddon. I do and not since sunday but one year at least. Do not confuse my "keep calm, Paddon is not YET close to Ogier" with "he will never win". I am a fan of Paddon....
4th July 2016, 19:24
dimviii

we were talking at Poland thread about Paddons bad results at mickey mouse stages.

his answer about at his twitter
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‏@RhysJKerr

@HaydenPaddon gr8 result mate! Re the micky mouse stages, what is the specific challenge on these? #askpaddon

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon

Yes a big weak area that we are working on. Changeable grip levels and less room for error. As much mental challenge
4th July 2016, 19:30
dimviii

Hayden Paddon Retweet Enea Pasquali

It's not our decision sorry. The promoters decides where the camera goes. Yes TN camera pos was good ��
4th July 2016, 19:38
AL14

We had no doubt Hayden
4th July 2016, 19:53
stefanvv

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Originally Posted by dimviii

TN camera pos was good ��

What is TN camera pos?
4th July 2016, 20:17
Oliverk

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

What is TN camera pos?

thierry neuville's camera position.
4th July 2016, 20:18
stefanvv

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Originally Posted by Oliverk

thierry neuville's camera position.

Thanks, didn't know that, I'll check it. Is it dangerous?
4th July 2016, 20:48
Franky

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

Thanks, didn't know that, I'll check it. Is it dangerous?

Yes, WRC Promoter might hunt you down for watching it.
4th July 2016, 20:52
stefanvv

Really? So I guess I should cancel my subscription then?
What I meant though - "Is it dangerous for Neuville/Gilsoul"?
6th July 2016, 08:46
Hartusvuori

In-depth interviw with our forum member, Lundefaret, on Paddon and Lundefaret's ideas of a perfect driving technique:

English version:
https://rallirinki.net/2016/07/06/cr...orld-champion/

Finnish version:
https://rallirinki.net/2016/07/06/ol...ista-mestarin/

Thanks, Ole, for taking the time to do this interview!
8th July 2016, 03:29
nafpaktos

This guru has a lot to offer to the world of rallying.Thanks to him we will see unbelievable passages in the future.Thanks Lunda,rallying needs you!!!
8th July 2016, 09:29
Lundefaret

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Originally Posted by nafpaktos

This guru has a lot to offer to the world of rallying.Thanks to him we will see unbelievable passages in the future.Thanks Lunda,rallying needs you!!!

Hehe, guru, maybe I will put that on my business card - just kidding.
But I am on a mission to end "The Era of the Sebs", and currently Ive got a buddy in war from NZ who has no less intent than me to do the same :)
8th July 2016, 20:15
janvanvurpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

In-depth interviw with our forum member, Lundefaret, on Paddon and Lundefaret's ideas of a perfect driving technique:

English version:
https://rallirinki.net/2016/07/06/cr...orld-champion/

Finnish version:
https://rallirinki.net/2016/07/06/ol...ista-mestarin/

Thanks, Ole, for taking the time to do this interview!

Much thanks for the Engrish version...Its so good I posted the whole thing over on America's No1 foruumit where I'm suspecting people will want to debate the idea and tell us why its all wrong.
8th July 2016, 22:48
danon

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Originally Posted by Lundefaret

Hehe, guru, maybe I will put that on my business card - just kidding.
But I am on a mission to end "The Era of the Sebs", and currently Ive got a buddy in war from NZ who has no less intent than me to do the same :)

This war stuff overcooked the coach mangiare a bit. The Seb era will end when Ogier quits like Loeb did.

watch the pic while listening to the music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAYhNHhxN0A
http://s31.postimg.org/4qibrt8rf/mission_impossible.jpg
8th July 2016, 22:55
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Lundefaret

Hehe, guru, maybe I will put that on my business card - just kidding.
But I am on a mission to end "The Era of the Sebs"

Hope you have some anti depressants nearby then...
9th July 2016, 08:22
Lundefaret

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Originally Posted by danon

This war stuff overcooked the coach mangiare a bit. The Seb era will end when Ogier quits like Loeb did.

watch the pic while listening to the music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAYhNHhxN0A
http://s31.postimg.org/4qibrt8rf/mission_impossible.jpg

No one said it would be easy.

But I agree with you. End the winning streak would be more correct.
And "buddy in war" is a Norwegian expression that probably translates badly ;)
1st August 2016, 19:17
dimviii

@HaydenPaddon Did you and Thierry have much friendly banter between stages during your close fight. was great to watch #askpaddon

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon

Just as normal - it was fun watching the close times but we didn't talk about it so much
1st August 2016, 19:29
dimviii

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon

Ο χρήστης Hayden Paddon έκανε Retweet johnny jordan

Speaking with Seb another idea with merit is Champ order D1, REVERSE champ order D2, reverse class D3 (for TV) #fair
1st August 2016, 20:03
janvanvurpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lundefaret

And "buddy in war" is a Norwegian expression that probably translates badly ;)

Okej vad är den original norsk fras?

(just så folk ska sluta klaga)
1st August 2016, 21:13
denkimi

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

@HaydenPaddon Did you and Thierry have much friendly banter between stages during your close fight. was great to watch #askpaddon

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon

Just as normal - it was fun watching the close times but we didn't talk about it so much

i don't think they really like each other. :p
1st August 2016, 22:04
Mk2 RS2000

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Originally Posted by denkimi

i don't think they really like each other. :p

I think you will find that they get along better than Nico & Lewis. Remember that the ideal team mate in motorsport is one who is about 1.5 seconds per km slower than you are.
1st August 2016, 22:47
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Mk2 RS2000

get along better than Nico & Lewis.

Yes but women rarely form good relationships with eachother so the example you used is not valid.

Here we talk about rally drivers.

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