2014 Pre-Season Testing

Wow. I know its only pre season testing but Mercedes have set some pace here, 33.2 is mighty fast whatever the fuel load.

McLaren against despite it being testing seem well matched. Surely this seasons car can't be such a pig as last year. McLaren don't often produce duffers two years In a row these days.

Force India and Williams seem decent as well. I am really hoping to see Williams moving into regular points scoring mode again.

Red Bull in terms of reliability have continued to struggle. Again most days blighted by issues.

Sauber appear where you would expect and Lotus lack of miles is similar to Red Bull.

Caterham and Marussia still seem slow, but the latter have not done many laps again.

I am looking forward to the season already. Come on.............

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I thought it was because he speaks in an American accent, like "The Boss" Bruce Springsteen.

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That Boss doesn't have an accent like the American bros I hang with. :confused: :p

Feels a little sorry for Kimiti Kimsta rollerblade. :angryfire :stareup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW5NFV11fUA :erm: ;(

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Originally Posted by steveaki13

Wow. I know its only pre season testing but Mercedes have set some pace here, 33.2 is mighty fast whatever the fuel load.

McLaren against despite it being testing seem well matched. Surely this seasons car can't be such a pig as last year. McLaren don't often produce duffers two years In a row these days.

Force India and Williams seem decent as well. I am really hoping to see Williams moving into regular points scoring mode again.

Red Bull in terms of reliability have continued to struggle. Again most days blighted by issues.

Sauber appear where you would expect and Lotus lack of miles is similar to Red Bull.

Caterham and Marussia still seem slow, but the latter have not done many laps again.

I am looking forward to the season already. Come on.............

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Thanks for the round up, saves me reading into it further for now :)

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Wow. I know its only pre season testing but Mercedes have set some pace here, 33.2 is mighty fast whatever the fuel load.

McLaren against despite it being testing seem well matched. Surely this seasons car can't be such a pig as last year. McLaren don't often produce duffers two years In a row these days.

Force India and Williams seem decent as well. I am really hoping to see Williams moving into regular points scoring mode again.

Red Bull in terms of reliability have continued to struggle. Again most days blighted by issues.

Sauber appear where you would expect and Lotus lack of miles is similar to Red Bull.

Caterham and Marussia still seem slow, but the latter have not done many laps again.

I am looking forward to the season already. Come on.............

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Thanks for the round up, saves me reading into it further for now :)

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No worries. :p

I forgot Ferrari. They seem to be under the radar just plodding along.

Anyway all of that will be proven wrong come the season. :D

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Wow. I know its only pre season testing but Mercedes have set some pace here, 33.2 is mighty fast whatever the fuel load.



I am really hoping to see Williams moving into regular points scoring mode again.



I am looking forward to the season already. Come on.............

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Anyway all of that will be proven wrong come the season. :D

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I wonder if Felipe will have free rein to resume crashing the bejezzus out of The Boss again this season? :p

Absolutely. Felipe Baby has always had the talent to ruin Lewis's Race. :D All the way back to Fuji 07 or 08 was it at the chicane.

Best video I have seen of all the cars at the Bahrain test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNcZQpSmizs#t=0

Having seen the video above, I rather like the sound of the new cars now. My worry is that due to the lower rev limit, and the ability to change up through the gears early due to the extra torque they just won't "sound" as fast. In the same way that some turbo rally cars sound a bit boring due to not revving so much and having quite a muffled sound.

i'm going to stick my neck onthe line - i like the sound, and when you have 20 + of these things its not going to be quiet - sure on their own they are less loud and shrill, but i like the note.

I'm also not too bothererd by the looks, some of the cars do look pretty silly, but only from the certain angle when still, once they are moving its really not that much of an issue - at least they don't all look identical

I think most of the competititon this year will be an endurance and fuel saving racing. Therefore, its hard to tell the ranking.

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I think most of the competititon this year will be an endurance and fuel saving racing. Therefore, its hard to tell the ranking.

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You could be right Mia. :(

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Absolutely. Felipe Baby has always had the talent to ruin Lewis's Race. :D All the way back to Fuji 07 or 08 was it at the chicane.

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It was 2008. The Boss was also penalized in that race for running Kimi off the track at the first corner :dork:

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Absolutely. Felipe Baby has always had the talent to ruin Lewis's Race. :D All the way back to Fuji 07 or 08 was it at the chicane.

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It was 2008. The Boss was also penalized in that race for running Kimi off the track at the first corner :dork:

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Of course it was. 07 was V wet. :vampire:

Lewis really had a :skull: Race that day.

Last four days of testing, with Caterham, Marussia, and the two Red Bull squads seemingly having a long way to come before they're where they want to be.

Today's drivers:
Red Bull - Daniel Ricciardo
Mercedes - Nico Rosberg
Ferrari - Kimi Raikkonen
Lotus - Pastor Maldonado
McLaren - Kevin Magnussen
Force India - Sergio Perez
Sauber - Adrian Sutil
Williams - Valtteri Bottas
Toro Rosso - Daniil Kvyat
Caterham - Kamui Kobayashi
Marussia - Max Chilton

Marussia seem to be capable of setting some reasonable times when their car is running.

All cars seem to be running more reliably now but still all Mercedes at the front. Either Ferrari are yet to show their hand or they have a problem...

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Marussia seem to be capable of setting some reasonable times when their car is running.

All cars seem to be running more reliably now but still all Mercedes at the front. Either Ferrari are yet to show their hand or they have a problem...

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I wouldn't write them off yet mate. Although they had some unexplained issues that limited running today, only FI and Williams have posted faster times(with 1/2 hour to go). These times really don't mean anything. Perhaps Ferrari are a little on the back foot but I think they will have a good challenger for Oz. My guess is not quite as good as the Mercedes works team however.

I guess Vettel is starting to get a little Angryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;)

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I wouldn't write them off yet mate. Although they had some unexplained issues that limited running today, only FI and Williams have posted faster times(with 1/2 hour to go). These times really don't mean anything. Perhaps Ferrari are a little on the back foot but I think they will have a good challenger for Oz. My guess is not quite as good as the Mercedes works team however.

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I agree, I think Ferrari are looking decent. Right now I would put them alongside McLaren as the 2nd and 3rd teams. But the Mercedes team have a clear margin over all of them.

Lap totals by engine manufacturer on the first day of the final test:

Mercedes: 431 (4 cars)
Ferrari: 187 (3 cars)
Renault: 144 (4 cars)

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I wouldn't write them off yet mate. Although they had some unexplained issues that limited running today, only FI and Williams have posted faster times(with 1/2 hour to go). These times really don't mean anything. Perhaps Ferrari are a little on the back foot but I think they will have a good challenger for Oz. My guess is not quite as good as the Mercedes works team however.

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I agree, I think Ferrari are looking decent. Right now I would put them alongside McLaren as the 2nd and 3rd teams. But the Mercedes team have a clear margin over all of them.

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Ferrari had enough running time to try out at least one of it's aero upgrades:

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No laps for Red Bull or Torro Rosso yet...

Still think the McLaren looks really good; the cars with the smooth transitions on the noses, penis or not, look best IMO (like the Sauber and McLaren)

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Better?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULcLqu3wFLQ 'nough said :hmph: :stareup: :dork:
I like Williams a lot!

So Red Bull were fastest yesterday... :hmph:

But they also spent five hours in the shed. :erm:

So are they good or not. :confused:


Anyway I just wanted to ask a question.

Which teams are yet to revel their final livery?

I mean Williams are going for a Martini livery, when do we see that?

McLaren are currently all Mercedes silver. Are they expecting to change that?

I hate Saubers dull grey. Is that there final livery?

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So Red Bull were fastest yesterday... :hmph:

But they also spent five hours in the shed. :erm:

So are they good or not. :confused:

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Perez was fastest, while Red Bull were down in 7th. They're likely to have a decent car aerodynamically, but just having a lot of problems internally, as well as the Renault engines being turned down due to their problems too.

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Which teams are yet to revel their final livery?

I mean Williams are going for a Martini livery, when do we see that?

McLaren are currently all Mercedes silver. Are they expecting to change that?

I hate Saubers dull grey. Is that there final livery?

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Just McLaren and Williams are yet to unveil their full livery. Sadly Sauber are just dull as dish water again. As for McLaren, they haven't mentioned anything about when their livery will launch. I'd imagine it'll be done via Twitter in the week before Melbourne. Williams is rumoured to be showing it before arriving in Melbourne as well, but not before the testing is complete. However, there has been a spy shot (below).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhBl-0BCQAEmOY-.jpg

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So Red Bull were fastest yesterday... :hmph:

But they also spent five hours in the shed. :erm:

So are they good or not. :confused:


Anyway I just wanted to ask a question.

Which teams are yet to revel their final livery?

I mean Williams are going for a Martini livery, when do we see that?

McLaren are currently all Mercedes silver. Are they expecting to change that?

I hate Saubers dull grey. Is that there final livery?

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Dawg! :dog: :confused:

It is stated that many teams were working on longer runs, so times really don't indicate all that much....

Unofficial Thursday test times from Bahrain
1. Sergio Perez, Force India, 1m 35.290s, 105 laps
2. Valtteri Bottas, Williams, 1m 36.184s, 128 laps
3. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 1m 36.432s, 54 laps
4. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, 1m 36.624s, 89 laps
5. Adrian Sutil, Sauber, 1m 37.700s, 89 laps
6. Kevin Magnussen, McLaren, 1m 37.825s, 109 laps
7. Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull, 1m 37.908s, 39 laps
8. Max Chilton, Marussia, 1m 38.610s, 44 laps
9. Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso, 1m 39.242s, 56 laps
10. Pastor Maldonado, Lotus, 1m 40.599s, 31 laps
11. Kamui Kobayashi, Caterham, 1m 42.285s, 19 laps


I wouldn't be shocked it all of us are surprised what happens for the first few races. Drivers ready to race and cars that might not be completely ready could be a combination that resembles rolling the dice. :D

Bahrain Friday AM: Red Bull bottom of the mileage list, with just 15 laps. Shame... :cool:

I must have been drunk. :p Where did I get Red Bull fastest. :crazy: :laugh:

Sorry about that.

Never the less its clear Red Bull haven't managed anything like a Grand Prix distance I assume. :lips:

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Lewis Hamilton won't be seen on track again today. The team has confirmed gearbox problems have ended his day early.

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Sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrry Mercedes finally has some semblance of a reliability issue :devil: :burp: ;)

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After a 23m break in the pits, Ricciardo comes back out and puts the Red Bull into the 1m35s for the first time.

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Could be the beginning of another long, scary movie :uhoh: ;( :bomb: :vampire: :eek:

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I wouldn't be shocked it all of us are surprised what happens for the first few races. Drivers ready to race and cars that might not be completely ready could be a combination that resembles rolling the dice. :D

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Come Oz almost all well funded teams will b e sufficiently prepared to do seriously developed war.... dawg! :dog: ;)

Winter Testing 2014 - Session 3, Day 2 - Bahrain (28.02.2014)[/u]

Ferrari using new rear wing and are kind of fast today :bounce:

That's why Fred's Red (Kimi akso) :dork: :devil:


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Kimi also :cool:

A productive day for Ferrar, at last, 122 laps covered today.

Perhaps one of their cars will finish the race in Oz, I bet it will be Alonsos.

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A productive day for Ferrar, at last, 122 laps covered today.

Perhaps one of their cars will finish the race in Oz, I bet it will be Alonsos.

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Mia, Mia Mia Mia. Both Ferrari challengers are going to show up in Australia with new everything as you would expect for the first race on the first engine of a designated number that are supposed to last al races or penaltys. Kimi an Santyander will both do well in Oz, unless Slash or Igor, or even freakin Grosjean. and Perez :laugh: Everyone has to mess with them. But I think the synergism between Kimi and Fred will be Royal noble and stately. Plus I think that they would just as soon keep it like that. I mean bthey are not special when it comes to dynamic and strategic pairings, like untill someone or both on McLaren totally implode. All I am saying is any freakin' thing could happen in F1 2014, hell they are just having the time of their live s complete with a long series of very entertaing partys!!
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The Renault teams seem to be 'turning up' the engines now and are beginning to go faster. I wonder how long they can last though on that setting? Vettel managed half a lap this morning before breaking down again.

It's getting comical, only one day of testing remaining after today and vettel has managed 4 corners. Tried to go out again later and didn't even make the end of the pit lane. The max they've done in all testing so far is 20 laps. On current form they'll be lucky to make the race. I'm sure they'll run better come Melbourne, but they only have a couple of weeks

Yes, its looking grim for Red Bull at the moment, but things can change rapidly come Oz.

Yup a whole day and Red Bull manage 0 laps.

I thought after the first test that Red Bull would be on top of issues by this stage. But lets be honest, this is now looking tough.

Come Australia I cant say they are very likely to last a race distance. They might get up there in Qualifying, but its tough to only be doing a max of 20 laps in a row in testing and head to Oz needing to do best part of 60.

Confidence will be low now.

9 cars only to finish.

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Yup a whole day and Red Bull manage 0 laps.

I thought after the first test that Red Bull would be on top of issues by this stage. But lets be honest, this is now looking tough.

Come Australia I cant say they are very likely to last a race distance. They might get up there in Qualifying, but its tough to only be doing a max of 20 laps in a row in testing and head to Oz needing to do best part of 60.

Confidence will be low now.

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It says a lot about Red Bull's situation when even Toro Rosso and Caterham (with exactly the same engines) are getting more mileage.

Overall though at this rate, my prediction of Marussia and/or Caterham getting their very first points could be coming true

I was just listening to a Vergne interview and he stated, he believes if you finish in the first few races, you will be in the points. i.e 6-10 finishers.

Then a team member said its going to be carnage like we haven't seen for some time.

This is exciting! :crazy:

Enjoy it while it lasts! This time next year (or long before) it will be back to humdrum super duper reliability, Codemasters F1 style... until 2020.

Red Bull broken again this morning.

It's not only the reliability which must be a concern to the teams, but the fact that when they have a problem it often takes a whole day to fix it. That's not gonna work on a GP weekend!