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Isn't that some supermarket? :D
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Italian WRC-2 contender Max Rendina met Pope Francis in Rome for a benediction:
http://www.rallyemotion.it/8165_wrc-2-m ... -benedice/
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Isn't that some supermarket? :D
looks huge!
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New pics shows big glass facade... hope it will be kind of Press Center of 2012 Eurovision!
http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/new ... .az_70.jpg
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Now I see where Hyundai's 80 million Euros went :D
Is that just a hospitality area or is it also the "service tent"?
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whose livery it is?
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Barrable,sorry the forum doesn t show all the photo,if you open it in a new page you will see it.
http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/mon ... 378608.jpg
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whose livery it is?
It' Robbie Barrable's late entry. Much greater prominence for Tunnocks than at WRGB. For those that don't know, a Tunnocks caramel wafer biscuit is an essential part of every Scottish kid's school lunch box and is as stereotypically scots as deep fried mars bars and haggis!
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BMW's are going to be used as recce car for Hyundai Motorsport...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdsSz-pCMAArthy.jpg:large
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Barrable's is a great looking livery! Love Tunnocks, love Fiestas so it's win win.
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That's great advertising for Hyundai :rolleyes:
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That's great advertising for Hyundai :rolleyes:
No different to M-Sport/Ford using Volvo's and Citroen using Mitsubishi Evos?
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Volvo at least used to be part of the same group as Ford, Citroen I can kind of understand as I don't think they have any 4wd in their range?
I just think it shows a lack of confidence in your own brand!
Are they allowed studs on recce cars? Otherwise the Hyundai boys are going to struggle if there is snow and ice.
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BMW 1 series with Xdrive? ;) It's important that in recce you have a car on which you feel the road well. It wouldn't be the first time a driver complains his notes are not good because he had a car that did not suit the road or match the car they compete in. Hyundai's only 4WD cars are SUV's, they are not really suited for doing recce for a rally. And I guess Mitsubishi or Subaru would be too much direct competitors on the car market? ;) I think the choice makes sense...
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Makes sense if you can buy a german car in Germany very cheaply!
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Makes sense if you can buy a german car in Germany very cheaply!
Sorry, but the last thing important for Hyundai is to save few thousand Euro on recce cars...
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Volvo at least used to be part of the same group as Ford, Citroen I can kind of understand as I don't think they have any 4wd in their range?
I just think it shows a lack of confidence in your own brand!
Are they allowed studs on recce cars? Otherwise the Hyundai boys are going to struggle if there is snow and ice.
And the PSA Group has a partnership with Mitsubishi (Mitsubishi ASX/ Citroën C4 Aircross)
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BMW 1 series with Xdrive? ;) It's important that in recce you have a car on which you feel the road well. It wouldn't be the first time a driver complains his notes are not good because he had a car that did not suit the road or match the car they compete in. Hyundai's only 4WD cars are SUV's, they are not really suited for doing recce for a rally. And I guess Mitsubishi or Subaru would be too much direct competitors on the car market? ;) I think the choice makes sense...
Very good choice I would say. :)
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Does any of you guys have some photos from the day 1 of the recce?
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Does any of you guys have some photos from the day 1 of the recce?
with 2 beers i am ok.
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Only wine in winter, beers in the summer :D
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Well im pretty much packed and ready to go! Bit of a drive up to Gatwick from Devon tomorrow ready for mondays flight, but it will so, so be worth it :D
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There are only photos from the pre event testing and not from recce day 1. So no beers for you
:) :) :)
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BMW 1 series with Xdrive? ;) It's important that in recce you have a car on which you feel the road well. It wouldn't be the first time a driver complains his notes are not good because he had a car that did not suit the road or match the car they compete in. Hyundai's only 4WD cars are SUV's, they are not really suited for doing recce for a rally. And I guess Mitsubishi or Subaru would be too much direct competitors on the car market? ;) I think the choice makes sense...
I would add also that Bmw 1 has 50:50 weight's balance, so it can match better what you find in a wrc
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Vino or Tom (or any other french member). Lots of debate regarding ZP on Forum Rallye. Is it published (in writing) anywhere that the public can't go anywhere but these zones? I specifically asked the roads dept of Hautes Alpes council if a road to ES7 would be closed and received a reply assuring me that it would be open. So it doesn't look as though people will be prevented from approaching the route. Any help appreciated.
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Long term prognoses are interesting for Monte weather (usually such long prognoses are still pretty unreliable). If my calculations are correct the a lot of rain on the lower elevations and up to 40 cm of snow on the higher elevations
bluuford: any update, or any changes in weather predictions? as we are only 4 days before the start?
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Vino or Tom (or any other french member). Lots of debate regarding ZP on Forum Rallye. Is it published (in writing) anywhere that the public can't go anywhere but these zones? I specifically asked the roads dept of Hautes Alpes council if a road to ES7 would be closed and received a reply assuring me that it would be open. So it doesn't look as though people will be prevented from approaching the route. Any help appreciated.
From my experience I wouldn't worry at all. There used to be so few marshals on the stages and they were "guarding" only the most known spectator points. Everywhere else there has always been absolute freedom for spectators. I doubt they would change the approach so radically.
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Vino or Tom (or any other french member). Lots of debate regarding ZP on Forum Rallye. Is it published (in writing) anywhere that the public can't go anywhere but these zones? I specifically asked the roads dept of Hautes Alpes council if a road to ES7 would be closed and received a reply assuring me that it would be open. So it doesn't look as though people will be prevented from approaching the route. Any help appreciated.
From my experience I wouldn't worry at all. There used to be so few marshals on the stages and they were "guarding" only the most known spectator points. Everywhere else there has always been absolute freedom for spectators. I doubt they would change the approach so radically.
You´re probably right, but putting same pressure as they do to organizers like Sweden and Finland would make them increase safety quite a lot.
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You know the stages of RMC have very few access points so I personally expect them to make gendarmerie maneuvers at those points. In the past in some points it was like that too (for example on Saint Bonnet when You came from the "arena"). At certain point we had to sneak around them but since then in next two-three kilometers we didn't meet a single marshal.
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Thanks for the advice Mirek, my fear is that there is a change of strategy and that the same problems people reported from Alsace will be repeated here. There are almost none of the classic Monte epingles listed as ZP but the viewpoint for many of these is a perfectly safe high bank
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Vino or Tom (or any other french member). Lots of debate regarding ZP on Forum Rallye. Is it published (in writing) anywhere that the public can't go anywhere but these zones? I specifically asked the roads dept of Hautes Alpes council if a road to ES7 would be closed and received a reply assuring me that it would be open. So it doesn't look as though people will be prevented from approaching the route. Any help appreciated.
well in fact people in France are effraid by new regulations for spectators which says people can't stay out of spectator zone. If it's not the case, organizers had to cancel the stage.
In the fact, I'm quite sceptical. Each year in "moutain rallies", marshall can't control people.
So the regulation is new for 2014, and it'll be the first rally with it ... I can't say you how it'll be. I suppose gendarmerie will try to stricter than they are usually.
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Vino or Tom (or any other french member). Lots of debate regarding ZP on Forum Rallye. Is it published (in writing) anywhere that the public can't go anywhere but these zones? I specifically asked the roads dept of Hautes Alpes council if a road to ES7 would be closed and received a reply assuring me that it would be open. So it doesn't look as though people will be prevented from approaching the route. Any help appreciated.
well in fact people in France are effraid by new regulations for spectators which says people can't stay out of spectator zone. If it's not the case, organizers had to cancel the stage.
In the fact, I'm quite sceptical. Each year in "moutain rallies", marshall can't control people.
So the regulation is new for 2014, and it'll be the first rally with it ... I can't say you how it'll be. I suppose gendarmerie will try to stricter than they are usually.
My french isn't good enough to argue with les flics! Reco on Tuesday will need to take account of evasion routes ;). Zut alors, putain, merde!!!
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well in fact people in France are effraid by new regulations for spectators which says people can't stay out of spectator zone. If it's not the case, organizers had to cancel the stage.
In the fact, I'm quite sceptical. Each year in "moutain rallies", marshall can't control people.
So the regulation is new for 2014, and it'll be the first rally with it ... I can't say you how it'll be. I suppose gendarmerie will try to stricter than they are usually.
Aha, I didn't know. That sounds bad but frankly I can not imagine how they are going to enforce that. They would have to cancel all stages...
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well in fact people in France are effraid by new regulations for spectators which says people can't stay out of spectator zone. If it's not the case, organizers had to cancel the stage.
In the fact, I'm quite sceptical. Each year in "moutain rallies", marshall can't control people.
So the regulation is new for 2014, and it'll be the first rally with it ... I can't say you how it'll be. I suppose gendarmerie will try to stricter than they are usually.
Aha, I didn't know. That sounds bad but frankly I can not imagine how they are going to enforce that. They would have to cancel all stages...
Or all the spectators out of the zones will start wearing military style camouflage suits
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