Sotnikov looses over 1 hour. Loprais on way point 5 would be 3 minutes behind Roma on 5th position among cars. Trucks in the dunes are fast :)
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Sotnikov looses over 1 hour. Loprais on way point 5 would be 3 minutes behind Roma on 5th position among cars. Trucks in the dunes are fast :)
Sainz out after an accident! The crew is transported to the medical center for checking. They shall be quite ok.
Sainz crashed on the liason - http://cs616921.vk.me/v616921937/518b/rJS6PhYUecQ.jpg
Tomorrow it will be very very hard stage, nothing is decided yet.
Any details on Sainz's exit?
Peterhansel is mighty impressive - he took 30 minutes out of Roma's lead in just three stages.
If you're interested in "26' Dakar" (same video as on Eurosport, however with a different commentator), they're hosted on Planet Robby.
got distracted and lost a corner?Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
http://cs314919.vk.me/v314919659/92af/E0-FHLRaBrg.jpg
Two or three years back Loprais had a huge crash with his Tatra on the road section. In that time the mechanic was driving and he was caught by a micro-sleep. Dakar is hugely exhausting event and things like that happen. I also think that Coma once managed to fall asleep on a bike in stage! I believe it was one of the last African editions...
http://cs320919.vk.me/v320919315/78e2/1IEAkWE4BDQ.jpg
http://cs320919.vk.me/v320919315/78c7/HD7zwqUgyWg.jpg
http://cs320919.vk.me/v320919315/78ac/8C4yU2dYJoQ.jpg
http://cs320919.vk.me/v320919315/78a3/KeJs8ol-eXI.jpg
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http://cs320919.vk.me/v320919315/787f/2TwcvSPYGmI.jpg
Yesterday :
Bikes : retirement for Israel :cry:
1 Barreda (Honda)
2 Rodrigues (Honda) 7'42
3 Despres (Ymaha) 9'26
4 Pain (Yamaha) 10'57
5 Coma (KTM) 11'12
6 Przygonski (KTM) 14'54
7 Svitko (KTM) 15'00
8 Pizzolito (Honda) 16'44
9 Jakes (KTM) 18'03
10 Gouet (Honda) 19'07
11 Viladoms (KTM) 19'13
12 van Niekerk (KTM) 23'15
13 Salvatierra (Speedbrain) 25'31
14 Patrao (Suzuki) 26'54
15 Ceci (Speedbrain) 27'04
...
17 Casteu (KTM) 29'43
...
19 Metge (Yamaha) 34'14
20 Pedrero (Sherco) 36'25
...
Quads : surprising victory !
1 Karyakin (Yamaha)
2 Casale (Yamaha) 1'49
3 Lafuente (Yamaha) 3'46
4 Gallegos (Honda) 10'24
5 Gonzalez (Yamaha) 29'59
6 SOnik (Yamaha) 30'26
...
Cars :
1 Al-Attiyah (Mini)
2 Peterhansel (Mini) 3'50
3 Roma (Mini) 13'45
4 de Villiers (Toyota) 28'15
5 Holowczyc (Mini) 31'13
6 Vasyliev (Mini) 33'22
7 Terranova (Mini) 33'48
8 Chabot (SMG) 41'40
9 Alvarez (Ford) 43'01
10 Villagra (Mini) 45'06
11 Lavieille (Haval) 49'34
12 ten Brinke (HRX) 51'10
13 Kaczmarski (Mini) 53'06
14 Sireyjol (SMG) 55'35
15 Dabrowski (Toyota) 56'55
16 Rakhimbayev (Toyota) 1h00'42
17 Malysz (Toyota) 1h07'16
18 Spataro (Renault) 1h15'42
19 Lachaume (MD) 1h21'26
20 Gordon (Hummer) 1h26'32
21 Rundle (TOyota) 1h53'04
22 Schott (Mini) 2h02'45
23 Vanagas (Osc) 2h02'52
24 Garafulic (Mini) 2h05'19
25 Mitsuhashi (TOyota) 2h05'49
...
32 van Loon (HRX) 2h41'40
...
Trucks :
1 Loprais (Tatra)
2 Karginov (Kamaz) 37"
3 de Rooy (Iveco) 6'10
4 Nikolaev (Kamaz) 13'57
5 Viazovich (Maz) 28'31
6 Shibalov (Kamaz) 35'22
7 Kuipers (Man) 53'40
8 Adua (Iveco) 55'25
9 Stacey (Iveco) 55'49
10 van Ginkel (Ginaf) 1h03'27
11 Vila (Iveco) 1h17'25
12 Sotnikov (Kamaz) 1h20'51
13 Ardavichus (Tatra) 1h22'21
14 Vasilevski (Maz) 1h22'55
15 Vildman (Liaz) 1h26'52
16 Sugawara (Hino) 1h27'31
17 van den Brink (Ginaf) 1h46'02
18 van Vliet (Man) 1h46'54
19 van Eerd (Daf) 1h58'54
...
From stage 11 live feed:
"Nasser Al-Attiyah is still in front in the car special, now with a lead of 4'38" over Stéphane Peterhansel. The third placed driver Nani Roma had moved in front of the Frenchman but has now dropped back to third place, 6'11” behind the Qatari. In light of the fact that there was talk of race instructions demanding the drivers to hold their positions this morning from Mini, the losses and gains of the various competitors are difficult to decipher…".
Team orders at X-raid?
P.S. I think ASO's decision to hold the second week of the rally during RMC is not right.
Today Karginov would be sixth in the car category. Not bad either :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
still big drama :bounce:Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
http://cs310119.vk.me/v310119039/6a05/91r6pq_ulq8.jpg
Well, not necessarily for the first three places. Quote of Peterhansel after the end of today's stage: "The game is over. We've had a good laugh and enjoyed ourselves. Yesterday evening, the team asked us to not take any more risks. It's a bit frustrating because we've done most of the hard work. But, if Mini wants to have three cars on the podium, at the speed at which we are driving out in front, it's easy to crash a car or even two in just one day. We know that this can happen, but I didn't think that they would do it."Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
flying kamaz! :eek:
yes I just watched the day's review on my local tv. shame if it is true. maybe the french is playing some games, we will seeQuote:
Originally Posted by kober
p.s. waiting to see De Rooy's responce now, he's been too cautious remembering last year but he can't wait for mistakes anymore
So unless a mistake or major time loss by Roma, he's the winner... It could have been such an exciting end :\
Yesterday :
Bikes :
1 Despres (Yamaha)
2 Pain (Yamaha) 2'37
3 Viladoms (KTM) 3'02
4 Barreda (Honda) 5'21
5 Rodrigues (Honda) 6'32
6 Pedrero (Sherco) 6'59
7 Svitko (KTM) 10'34
8 Przygonski (KTM) 11'49
9 Jakes (KTM) 11'56
10 Coma (KTM) 12'09
11 Metge (Yamaha) 14'11
12 Gouet (Honda) 15'50
13 van Niekerk (KTM) 20'38
14 Casteu (KTM) 23'11
15 Ceci (Speedbrain) 29'03
./..
Quads :
1 Casale (Yamaha)
2 Gallegos (Honda) 5'12
3 Abu-Issa (Honda) 16'09
4 Sonik (Yamaha) 19'27
5 Karyakin (Yamaha) 27'42
6 Husseini (Honda) 1h06'06
retirement for Lafuente ! Well, Casale now has race won.
Cars :
1 Terranova (Mini)
2 Roma (Mini) 10'57
3 de Villiers (Toyota) 12'38
4 Peterhansel (Mini) 14'14
5 Al Attiyah (Mini) 20'57
6 Chabot (SMG) 30'18
7 Villagra (Mini) 33'55
8 Alvarez (Ford) 35'38
9 Holowczyc (Mini) 38'17
10 Vasyliev (Mini) 39'06
11 Garafulic (Mini) 44'05
12 Lavieille (Haval) 47'34
13 Kaczmarski (Mini) 54'49
14 Dabrowski (Toyota) 58'34
15 Sireyjol (SMG) 59'16
16 ten Brinke (HRX) 1h18'22
17 Lachaume (MD) 1h19'05
18 Spataro (Renault) 1h23'02
19 Schott (Mini) 1h34'45
20 Patissier (Buggy) 1h46'42
21 Zhou (Mini) 1h47'40
...
30 Poulter (Toyota) 2h28'00
...
46 Malysz (Toyota) 4h30'38
...
49 van Loon (HRX) 4h49'56
50 Rundle (Toyota) 5h20'50
51 Rakhimbayev (Toyota) 5h46'08
Trucks : Karginov new leader * :bounce: *
1 Karginov (Kamaz)
2 Nikolaev (Kamaz) 14'18
3 de Rooy (Iveco) 15'51
4 Loprais (tatra) 22'36
5 Shibalov (Kamaz) 28'35
6 Sotnikov (Kamaz) 30'56
7 Viazovich (Maz) 49'05
8 Stacey (Iveco) 51'11
9 van Vliet (Man) 1h09'12
10 Kuipers (Man) 1h12'25
11 Vila (Iveco) 1h19'11
12 Vasilevski (Maz) 1h32'04
13 Sugawara (Hino) 1h35'11
14 Ardavichus (Tatra) 1h44'13
15 van Ginkel (Ginaf) 1h45'54
...
The jump of Kamaz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzpqaJkYC-c
Great selection of photos!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartek
Peterhansel is ahead of Roma in the virtual overall classification at WP8!
Yesterday :
Bikes : Barreda fall and lose 2nd place ... what a stupid boy :rolleyes:
1 Despres (Yamaha)
2 Coma (KTM) 2'17
3 Pain (Yamaha) 5'53
4 Rodrigues (Honda) 7'21
5 Viladoms (KTM) 9'10
6 Gouet (Honda) 9'52
7 Przygonski (KTM) 10'45
8 Casteu (KTM) 11'03
9 Jakes (KTM) 12'04
10 Pizzolito (Honda) 12'49
11 van Niekerk (KTM) 19'08
12 Sanz (Honda) 20'34
13 Svitko (KTM) 23'30
14 Salvatierra (Speedbrain) 33'02
15 Ceci (Speedbrain) 33'58
...
42 Metge (Yamaha) 1h07'02
...
50 Pedrero (Sherco) 1h25'14
...
67 Barreda (Honda) 2h29'35
Quads :
1 Casale (Yamaha)
2 Husseini (Honda) 5'05
3 Karyakin (Yamaha) 17'13
4 Sonik (Yamaha) 19'10
5 Gallegos (Honda) 24'42
...
Cars : so Peterhansel took the lead ...
1 Peterhansel (Mini)
2 Al-Attiyah (Mini) 3'38
3 Roma (Mini) 5'58
4 de Villiers (Toyota) 10'48
5 Holowczyc (Mini) 18'06
6 Chabot (SMG) 18'24
7 Garafulic (Mini) 25'26
8 Alvarez (Ford) 26'15
9 Terranova (Mini) 29'50
10 Lavieille (Haval) 31'09
11 Villagra (Mini) 31'26
12 Vasyliev (Mini) 31'34
13 ten Brinke (HRX) 34'21
14 Dabrowski (Toyota) 40'07
15 Zhou (Mini) 41'04
16 Spataro (Renault) 41'30
17 Lachaume (MD) 42'30
18 Kaczmarski (Mini) 43'19
19 Malysz (Toyota) 47'46
20 Sireyjol (SMG) 50'48
21 Rakhimbayev (Toyota) 58'22
22 Poulter (Toyota) 1h04'08
23 Rundle (Toyota) 1h04'39
24 Schott (Mini) 1h06'53
...
44 van Loon (HRX) 2h46'24
and Gordon retired.
Trucks : Karginov still leading.
1 de Rooy (Iveco)
2 Karginov (Kamaz) 31"
3 Nikolaev (Kamaz) 3'18
4 Shibalov (Kamaz) 5'39
5 Sotnikov (Kamaz) 11'30
6 Viazovich (Maz) 20'38
7 Stacey (Iveco) 30'35
8 Vasilevski (Maz) 38'16
9 Vila (Iveco) 41'02
10 van Ginkel (Ginaf) 43'43
11 Kuipers (Man) 45'44
12 Ardavichus (Kamaz) 46'37
13 van Vliet (Man) 50'04
14 Rotsaert (Man) 51'31
15 van den Brink (Ginaf) 54'44
...
34 Loprais (Tatra) 2h53'15
yes and I heard it happened in the last 15 kms. this is Dakar - mentality above everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
onboard of Petterhansel - http://vk.com/video63747552_167356631
For now de Rooij has won the trucks :D
But Karginov had a blocked road due to a crashed car in front of him. Now the question whether he helped the car back on his wheels or not in order to get some time compensation!
Okay, seems like they compensated some of Karginov's time and now he is a winner with 3 minutes.
Waiting for video from it - how narrow it was, how much Karginov helped? On the 3rd or 4th day, when De Rooy was blocked from a buggy, he pulled it for 20 seconds and resumed driving.
Anyway they both deserve the win for me.
http://cs7001.vk.me/c413430/v4134309...-S8ifPhiac.jpg
and then this: (too wide to post here)
http://cs7001.vk.me/c413430/v413430937/ ... KHR9z4.jpg
Bikes : yesterday :
1 Barreda (Honda)
2 Pain (Yamaha) 40"
3 Rodrigues (Honda) 1'23
4 Pedrero (Sherco) 1'35
5 Despres (Yamaha) 2'30
6 Viladoms (KTM) 3'31
7 Metge (Yamaha) 4'08
8 Gouet (Honda) 4'17
9 Przygonski (KTM) 5'16
10 Casteu (KTM) 7'20
...
Overall :
1 Marc Coma (Esp, KTM)
2 Jordi Viladoms (Esp, KTM) 1h52'27
3 Olivier Pain (Fra, Yamaha) 2h00'03
4 Cyril Despres (Fra, Yamaha) 2h05'38
5 Helder Rodrigues (Por, Honda) 2h11'09
6 Kuba Przygonski (Pol, KTM) 2h31'46
7 Joan Barreda (Esp, Honda) 2h54'01
8 Daniel Gouet (Chl, Honda) 3h10'34
9 Stefan Svitko (Svk, KTM) 3h50'10
10 David Casteu (Fra, KTM) 3h58'09
11 Ivan Jakes (Svk, KTM) 4h19'35
12 Riaan van Niekerk (Rsa, KTM) 5h33'38
13 Michael Metge (Fra, Yamaha) 5h56'34
14 Pedro Salvatierra (Bol, Speedbrain) 6h13'42
15 Henk Knuiman (Ned, KTM) 7h44'38
16 Laia Sanz (Esp, Honda) 8h03'02
17 Claudio Rodriguez (Chl, Honda) 8h08'51
18 David Pabiska (Cze, KTM) 8h16'41
19 Paolo Ceci (Ita, Speedbrain) 8h24'06
20 Nicolas Cardona (Ven, Yamaha) 8h46'50
21 Juan Pedrero (Esp, Sherco) 9h19'19
22 Henricus Vogels (Ned, KTM) 9h28'29
23 Javier Pizzolito (Arg, Honda) 9h34'32
24 Pedro Oliveira (Por, Speedbrain) 10h38'29
25 Marc Guasch (Esp, Gas Gas) 10h46'19
...
78 classified
Quads : Stage :
1 Casale (Yamaha)
2 Husseini (Honda) 54"
3 Sonik (Yamaha) 3'07
4 Gallegos (Honda) 4'41
5 Karyakin (Yamaha) 8'47
...
Overall :
1 Ignacio Casale (Chl, Yamaha)
2 Rafal Sonik (Pol, Yamaha) 1h26'49
3 Sebastian Husseini (Ned, Honda) 5h40'24
4 Mohammed Abu-Issa (Qat, Honda) 10h07'11
5 Victor Gallegos (Chl, Honda) 10h23'41
6 Jeremias Gonzalez (Arg, Yamaha) 11h50'17
7 Sergey Karyakin (Rus, Yamaha) 15h40'01
8 Daniel Mazzucco (Arg, Can Am) 17h47'48
9 Santiago Hansen (Arg, Yamaha) 17h51'45
10 Daniel Domaszewski (Arg, Honda) 20h25'13
...
15 clasified
Autos : stage :
1 de Villiers (Toyota)
2 Holowczyc(Mini) 23"
3 Vasyliev (Mini) 41"
4 Roma (Mini) 1'40
5 Terranova (Mini) 1'53
6 Lavieille (Haval) 2'57
7 Villagra (Mini) 3'09
8 Kaczmarski (Mini) 4'45
9 Al-Attiyah (Mini) 4'51
10 Garafulic (Mini) 6'59
...
overall :
1 Nani Roma (Esp, Mini)
2 Stéphane Peterhansel (Fra, Mini) 5'38
3 Nasser Al-Attiyah (Qat, Mini) 56'52
4 Giniel de Villiers (Rsa, Toyota) 1h19'07
5 Orlando Terranova (Arg, Mini) 1h27'44
6 Krzystzof Holowczyc (Pol, Mini) 3h55'42
7 Marek Dabrowski (Pol, Toyota) 5h34'25
8 Christian Lavieille (Fra, Haval) 5h35'50
9 Martin Kaczmarski (Pol, Mini) 6h58'12
10 Vladimir Vasyliev (Rus, Mini) 6h59'34
11 Boris Garafulic (Chl, Mini) 7h35'15
12 Federico Villagra (Arg, Mini) 8h20'52
13 Adam Malysz (Pol, Toyota) 9h58'31
14 Emiliano SPataro (Arg, Renault) 10h18'48
15 Patrick Sireyjol (Fra, SMG) 10h49'20 1er 2RM
16 Pierre Lachaume (Fra, MD) 11h36'52
17 Aidyn Rakhimbayev (Kaz, Toyota) 12h33'00
18 Ronan Chabot (Fra, SMG) 12h53'28
19 Stefan Schott (Ger, Mini) 13h25'38
20 Juan Silva (Arg, Mercedes) 14h47'17
21 Jun Mitsuhashi (Jap, Toyota) 14h54'26 1er T2
22 Lucio Alvarez (Arg, Ford) 16h11'01
23 Eric Bernard (Fra, Nissan) 16h20'27
24 Nicolas Gibon (Fra, Toyota) 16h22'17
25 Thomas Rundle (Rsa, Toyota) 17h49'22
...
27 Erik van Loon (Ned, HRX) 19h44'21
28 Bernhard ten Brinke (Ned, HRX) 21h11'30
...
31 Zhou Yong (Chn, Mini) 23h34'05
...
33 Leeroy Poulter (Rsa, Toyota) 26h13'30
62 classified
trucks : stage
1 Loprais (Tatra)
2 de Rooy (Iveco) 2'25
3 Nikolaev (Kamaz) 2'53
4 Stacey (Iveco) 4'22
5 Adua (Iveco) 4'25
6 Viazovich (Maz) 5'53
7 Karginov (Kamaz) 6'39
8 Sotnikov (Kamaz) 7'31
9 Vasilevski (Maz) 7'41
10 Shibalov (Kamaz) 8'13
...
Overall :
1 Andrei Karginov (Rus, Kamaz)
2 Gerard de Rooy (Ned, Iveco) 3'11
3 Eduard Nikolaev (Rus, Kamaz) 1h34'52
4 Dmitry Sotnikov (Rus, Kamaz) 3h22'10
5 Anton Shibalov (Rus, Kamaz) 4h37'25
6 Ales Loprais (Cze, Tatra) 5h04'01
7 Hans Stacey (Ned, IVeco) 5h14'57
8 Rene Kuipers (Ned, Man) 6h31'08
9 Marcel van Vliet (Ned, Man) 7h06'53
10 Pep Vila (Esp, Iveco) 7h53'35
11 Siarhei Viazovich (Blr, Maz) 8h36'38
12 Teruhito Sugawara (Jap, Hino) 12h19'37
13 Vlastimil Vildman (Cze, Liaz) 13h20'46
14 Artur Ardavichus (Kaz, Tatra) 15h36'11
15 Maurik van den Heuvel (Ned, Man) 16h24'51
16 Frits van Eerd (Ned, Daf) 16h52'53
17 Tomas Vratny (Cze, Tatra) 17h38'43
18 Jan Tomamek (Cze, Tatra) 18h20'48
19 Steven Rotsaert (Bel, Man) 19h04'43
20 Martin van den Brink (Ned, Ginaf) 19h44'46
21 Wuf van Ginkel (Ned, Ginaf) 20h08'32
22 Jo Adua (Fra, Iveco) 22h18'58
...
50 classified
[quote=vino_93]thx you very much ! You are our truck master :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Crazy picture of the Liaz :eek:[/quote:1bmyhltz]
I should add to Mirek, that car for Ardavichius was finished very close to the Dakar. Team has ready also older car for Ardavichius, but he has decided to start with new car despite lack of testing. So technical problems are not so big surprises.
Thx !
Is it the same model than Loprais ?
No, they are different teams and use their own know-how. For example Bonver use Buggyra engines while Loprais has MKR Racing (circuit Renaults). There is a lot of other differences.
ok !
I see Loprais with Tatra T815-2, as Tomanek ... and Ardavichus T163.
Has really Loprais a T815-2 ? Is it only physical change between his truck and Tomanek one ?
I am not absolutely sure about this. 163 aka Jamal is the nose stock truck while 815 is the one with the cabin in front. So if the truck is based on Jamal it shall be 163. Maybe the one of Loprais is a heavily modified 815 with a front from Jamal. I don't know. Anyway both stock trucks share many same parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
Watching Al-Attiyah's and Peterhansel's Mini stop to let Nami Roma through on the final stage was a big disgrace to this sport. I can only compare it to the worst of Ferrari team orders. Before the race I thought the competition in car class was still going to be good because X-Raid still had a lot of really good drivers assembled. Well, I didn't know to expect the team orders. We really need another strong factory to join Dakar now. As for all other classes, I thought the competition was very interesting.
I don't know why people have a problem with Quandt's order. If a team is in a position to do so, what's wrong with asking their drivers to hold positions? Rallying is a team sport. It was not the first time, it won't the last.
Having said that, I hope that in 2015 X-raid won't be in position to do it again. Let's hope that the competition will increase their investments, because one cannot hope to win the Dakar counting every penny.
Or maybe it is time to limit T1.2's air restrictor by a mm or two :)
Also, what's up with Michelin tires? The amount of punctures during the race was too damn high. For example, De Villiers suffered thirteen (!) punctures during the rally. Time to switch to Toyo? :)
There is no justification for the team orders when the team's win is pretty much assured. With teams positions only 1-2 I can understand, but not with 1-2-3..
Must watch photo gallery from Dakar!
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php? ... tograf=283