Stephane Prevot the patron saint of lost causes..
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Stephane Prevot the patron saint of lost causes..
Prevot is only good to slow down drivers.
Sarrazin was not better with Prevot as co-driver.
Duval was not worst with smeets or Pivato as co-driver.
So we will see the finger again... :dozey:Quote:
Originally Posted by spudrsca
It's difficult to change co-driver in the middle of the season, the best are not available anymore, only leftovers to choose from.
Well, actually that is St. Jude....Quote:
Originally Posted by sal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Jude
I heard he was sitting alongside DuvalQuote:
Originally Posted by Glee
He must learn the pace notes of Atkinson. And Prevot speaks French-English...Quote:
Originally Posted by turves
Difficult for the crew in the comming rallies.
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Originally Posted by sal
is prevot good co-driver????
Too bad Kaj Lindström isn't available anymore.
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Originally Posted by raybak
The way I read that news is that the crash was not the reason, just the thing that broke the camels back. If you read between the lines, it seems that their relationship was not good. If the crash had been the reason, he would not consider co-driving again as he would be afraid of crashes, and that's not the case.
Same goes with Prevot. He didn't quit with Duval because of crashes, but because of their relationship. Now did the bad relationship cause the accidents in both cases? Maybe.
And from what I have heard, Prevot is an excellent co-driver. Also really good with english notes.
It must have been hard for Glenn to trust Atko at all, with crash after crash. But outside the car, they seem to get along really well. They're both friendly guys. I wonder how Atko's and Stephane's personalities with mesh.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
Has Prevot ever done a rally with English pacenotes before? Seems he's only codriven Belgians.
Maybe all was not at it seemend. That's how I read the "statement"Quote:
Originally Posted by amberie
Belgians doesn't exist. In Belgian they speak Dutch in the north and French in the south. Prevot comes from the French part of Belgian (Walonreye).Quote:
Originally Posted by amberie
Yes, I know he speaks French--I was just going off of his page at Rallybase: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?ty...ile&driverid=9Quote:
Originally Posted by FocusChampion
It's just surprising that he doesn't have much experience with reading English pacenotes and he's jumping directly into the role as codriver. Although it would be a bigger problem if the driver were switching languages (ie: Daniel Carlsson and Denis Giraudet).
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Originally Posted by amberie
Probably not in rallies, but from what I have heard, he has tested with his teammates (eg. Märtin, Kankkunen) with english notes. If you can read notes well, it is not a big difference what language they are in
Petter Solberg could hardly any English when Phill Mills was appointed as his co-driver...Quote:
Originally Posted by amberie
... which btw is a lot more complicated since the driver has to do the translation. Same applies to Carlsson, but not for Atko.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glee
Prevot and Duval relationship was not good because Prevot would have like to say how Duval should drive and didn't like his driving style. Too agressive and sideways to his taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
And Duval didn't trust anymore the notes of Prevot because Prevot was slowing him down too many times when not needed.
Remember that he was saying cautious cautious many many times.
:rotflmao: :laugh: :angel: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FocusChampion
:rotflmao: :laugh: :s tareup: :angel: :bandit:Quote:
Originally Posted by FocusChampion
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Originally Posted by raybak
Sounds more like that it was the straw that broke the camels back
Sounds too me like the two guys where just not getting along, Glenn clearly believes in atko's talent, but he feels he should be doing a few things differently, Atko thought otherwise, they where sitting on the side of the road for three hours looking at a wrecked car, they had a bit of a deep and meaningful conversation with each other and decided that it was time to go their seperate ways. It's part of life.
Looks like Prevot has the seat. And yes, let's hope he does improve, regardless of who is sitting next to him!
We can't be blamed for feeling he has reached his peak & I feel sure this has entered the heads of the powers that be in SWRT as well! I for one am tired of seeing him up high in the results early into a rally only to see him slip 20-30 odd places because of hitting something or going off & if it's not one of those it's mechanical. Seems he just can't win a trick!
I was bitterly disappointed to see him go off in 2006 in Perth - our last WRC event (Hiss Spit!! If I ever see that politician he'd better duck for cover!).
We were hoping to see him put on a show for us but it wasn't to be, yet again. Mind, think I was more disappointed to hear of Gronny's off and can't help wondering if that hadn't occurred, would Loeb have competed in NZ? (Yet another 'fail to finish' by Atto)
Ahh well, at least there was a good effort put in by local boy Dean Herridge in Perth, perhaps the next Aussie to win a WRC drive.
I dont really think they should have been partnered up in the first place.
I can understand why (Glen had WRC experience, Chris needed that), but to me they never even looked like gelling together.
If you look at the Petter/Phil and Marcus/Timo they have a very good relationship. From what I saw of Chris/Glen, it was business only = not ideal at all.
Lets see how Stefan goes :)
That's exactly what has been lingering in my mind for quite some time :)Quote:
Originally Posted by justjuli
I guess I'm not alone on that one.
SWRT and Atkinson had a three man chooise between Stephane Prevot, Denis Giraudet (he really does not want to be home to many times :) ) and a young Australian navigator weith little experience.
The young Aussie, was that Dale Moskat?
They don't mentoning it in the interview with Stephane Prevot. Just that both Giraudet and Prevot have contacted the team and asked for the job. Giraudet was found to be too old, and the unknown Australian to unexperienced.
grugsticles, that's my understanding.
I hear that SWRT had more say over the choice than usual because a certain car was written off in Portugal - something about controlling their investment.
BUT from what I hear Chris had real problems understanding Prevot in the recent test, due to his strong 'English' accent.
That's not good curry. I hope Chris starts understanding him real fast or his problems are going to multiply.
Me being Australian, I think that theres nothing worse than being spokn to by somone with a strong accent, even if their English is very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by curry
I couldnt imagine how hard it would be to comprehend pacenotes!
As for SWRT taking the 'experienced' option, I dont think that is a good thing at all. If they wanted experience get somone like Robert Reid - someone who I think would be more understandable.
Ive got a feeling that Atkinson will be making a few more off road excursions this year :(
Well, it's not like Prevot will read the "Harry Poter" book in the car. It's just a limited number of terms. If Atko can't get used to that quick, that means he's kind of slow not only driving. But since you are Australian, I can understand your feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by grugsticles
ROFL @ Harry Potter. Well said!
Two points:Quote:
Originally Posted by curry
the car wasn't written off in Portugal. there's actually barely a bent panel on it, but the cooling system damage was too great to continue.
despite a number of offs, chris has yet to write off a car during his Subaru career.
Also, Chris didn't have real problems understanding Prevot. There are one or two terms that he'll have to get used to, but that's it.
About time you put them straight Mike. Now if you can just shed some light on the real reason Glenn left.
i could...
...but that would be a bit crass - and i only know it from one side.
if glenn and chris want to talk about it, then they will.
i know them both and they're both good blokes. and they've both moved on.
i think we should, too.
Mmmm...Could Argentina be called an improvement? Let's hope so.
Well, going from the incar footage, Stephan speaks much better english that I did expect. Very clear indeed. Almost like Phill Mills in a way.
As such I no longer have any resivation that Chris will have a problem in the communication steaks.
The two seemed to work quite well together and even of they lost their pace 1/2 way through the rally, at least they finished!
Glenn's back this year with Toshi Arai.....What say ye, peanut gallery?