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Sounds great. They should have this video on every pre race show and start doing comercials with it.
Why are the rpms so frick'n low? Not what I was expecting! Why is the car going the opposite direction? Are they gonna throw a few of those in the mix? :confused: :(
Word on the 'net is that there have been engine problems jimi. Even if there aren't any supposed reliabilty issues, things are still in the testing phase...
On another note, apparently J-Dampers are Indycar bound. They were the topic of protests and the standard f1 political games 2 or 3 years ago.
And yet on another note, Lotus appears more likely to be missing come St. Pete 2012.
bad form Lotus... Are the cracks in their expansion plans becoming painfully obvious?
Let's hope it all comes together!
Road course!Quote:
Originally Posted by jimispeed
They were running on the old F1 road course that runs the opposite direction of the oval and the Moto GP road course.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimispeed
The fact that their is no "official" on-track video of the car is troubling. Why the secrecy? It is a spec chassis. No need to hide it from teams,Quote:
Originally Posted by nigelred5
This may be official. It looks professionally amateurish. A single Youtube post that looks like shakeycam cellphone footage and the amateur videographer took the time to do a nice title and date intro in software. Teaser? Hmmm...Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Well, I hope everything/everyone comes together, I hope everyone buys in, I hope it's badass and I hope the cars lose the bunghole and gain the sleek look of a hoop! I look forward to it!!
Really interesting, informative article. Thanks for posting that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
I got my Vegas tickets and schedule a few days ago and apparently they are doing a demo of the car on Saturday. Time is TBD.
No problem Jag....
Lotus is still in according to Marshall Pruett.
FWIW - with the signing of ???? to conquest for the Motegi race they are showing some pictures of the Formula Nippon car - very nice - more along the line of what I had hoped for in the "new look" - not perfect mind you - but nice.....
Had they chosen Swift we could have been..... Dallara has the market cornered on ugly.
M Pruett provides further confirmation that Lotus will be around come race day 2012. He provides an interesting overview on the outlook for next year:
CONFIRMED
1. A.J. Foyt Racing: Honda, 1-2 cars.
2. Andretti Autosport: Chevrolet, 3-4 cars.
3. Ganassi Racing/Target Chip Ganassi Racing: Honda, 4 cars.
4. Penske Racing: Chevrolet, 3 cars.
5. Sam Schmidt Motorsports: Honda, 1-2 cars.
KNOWN/BELIEVED TO BE COMPLETED
1. HVM Racing: Lotus, 1-2 cars.
2. KV Racing Technology: Chevrolet, 2-3 cars.
3. Newman/Haas Racing: Honda, 2 cars.
4. Panther Racing: Chevrolet, 1-2 cars.
IN NEGOTIATIONS
1. Bryan Herta Autosport: 1 car.
2. Conquest Racing: 1-2 cars.
3. Dale Coyne Racing: 2 cars.
4. Dragon Racing: 1 car.
5. Dreyer & Reinbold Racing: 2-3 cars.
6. Michael Shank Racing: 1 car.
7. Rahal Letterman Lanigan: 1 car.
8. Sarah Fisher Racing: 1 car.
Brembo is set to supply the brakes.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...rakes-contract
http://www.insideline.com/car-news/b...2-indycar.html
Pretty vague, but it's something!
Stuck with Dan - YouTube
Keep up the info as you find it guys/girls, and get out your video, camera etc....
Here is Marshall Pruett's article on Dan's opinion on the new car so far.
AUTO RACING - INDYCAR: It
I think they way it looks now is what it will look like next year. How fast it is and how it races is the most important thing, but when I look at it, I can't help but think it's the Pontiac Aztec of race cars.
I knew I had seen the car before
http://www.shelbyforums.com/forums/a...d-may-2005.jpg
http://resources2.news.com.au/images...dycar-2012.jpg
Take a long look at the photo above of the new car from the front...
Focus on the raised bulky sidepod(s)
Now imagine Simonas fire last season.... And picture the safety crew attempting to extract a racer
Maybe it's just me but that appears to be a major safety concern
I think that they are only raised towards the rear, around the wheels so they should be able to get to the driver if they need to.
Your correct ...
The more I see different angles etc. of this car, the less I like it (and I have not been much of a fan before).... The sidepods are just plain UGLY and awkward looking.... The airbox is huge and ungainly - especially in a turbo. The rest seems very workable - I think it'll look better with speedway wings but the airbox and sidepods really need to go....
Unfortunately, as someone earlier said - this is probably pretty much it..... I'd say the Indycar dog is running scared right now....
You insult the club racer!! :D That silver thing isn't half bad looking.....Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
There was a pic of very similar car with that 'wedge' lOok floating arOund when the deltawing talk first started up.... I liked the lOok..... Whether it's racy who knows
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6003/...a0c57fdbfb.jpg
It's less butt-ugly from this angle...
IICS flickr
Just saw this on IndyCar's youtube channel. The car looks relatively sleek to me, and in these short shots it looks pretty agile and quick. Still a bit too long/wide for my taste, and the side angle isn't particularly appealing, but this new footage actually improved my opinion of it. You know, for all the crap everyone says, the new car does look better than the old one. That's at least something...
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Redfern wins in Zip Formula Hmmmmmm, now we know the source of the inspiration for this pile of poop.
The current car is really only really bad at the front of the cockpit and the nose is a bit pointy - this thing is bad everywhere else....Quote:
Originally Posted by NickFalzone
I do agree, it looks better from a lower angle - lots of gopher cam shots in 2012 :p :
All of this testing with "The Bunghole", makes me think they're not getting rid of it!
That is a disgrace!!!!!
What is the bunghole? The bit on the engine cover? I personally don't mind it, but the sidepods and the rear bumpers look ugly. Of course, it's more important that the car is safe, fast and races well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimispeed
Us hardcore fans can keep telling ourselves that (and I really have been until this latest set of photos) - but there is absolutely no excuse for it not to be safe, fast, racy AND at least NOT ugly. They made the specifications, controlled the process and it is the only car. They did not have to choose to allow this aesthetic abomination to be THE car......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Krogshöj
My growing concern is that if they are this clueless as to how important it is for this car to be "not ugly" (not necessarily universally loved) how clueless are they about everything else??? This is the keystone of the entire Indycar product and as Anthony likes to point out, they have a product problem that this is only going to make worse
My objection to this car is not that I am underwhelmed - it is fundamentally a sports "turn-off", it is so bad. I consider myself to be pretty easygoing on things like this - there is a really big range of what I would consider acceptable - if not a "home run" - and I am ver inclined to give Indycar the benefit of the doubt... I am thinking that if someone like me find this thing so bad, they have problem.....
The car will be safer than the old car. It will be faster than the old car. I believe they designed it to be "racier" than the old car in that you will able to pass.
Jesus Christ you guys sounds like a bunch of teenage girls watching Jersey Shore b********* about whether the sequins on a pair of jeans should be gold or silver.
Really, stop it already, you're embarassing yourselves as fans. Let them get a couple dozen of these on the track at the same time & get a few races under their belts & then see how you feel about the car.
Tell me again what is the purpose of the tall 'air box' scoop on a turbocharged engine.
Rumors are it's not going to be lighter when it actually gets delivered.....will it set a new track record at Indy? If not it's just not faster...
And how do design a car to be racier?
I hear you - but the thing is - they have absolute control over this car - if this car had evolved to look the way it does due to competition you could at least appreciate the function and pedigree. In this case, there is no good excuse for it to be so unattractive - it can easily be all the things you said and still look half decent (again - it is not like it is underwhelming - it is hideous)....... Obviously, I'll see wait it does and if it produces the best racing ever I'll suck it up and find the inner beauty - but right now if some fan outcry gets them to pretty it up a little, I am all for fan outcry.....Quote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
I understand and support the concept of better and safer racing but given that this is a spec car, safer and racier does not have to be ungainly and ill-proportioned. Furthermore, it is in the best interest of the series to do everything they can to flatter the car in these early pictures - I am assuming someone took the time to optimize the paint and what not to flatter the car - and if they did not - shame on them - that is basic marketing 101.... Theoretically, this should be as pretty as the car can look in these photos..... The Interscope "batmobile" looked similar to this in many ways but boy they painted that car and placed the decals to flatter it nicely - it wouldn't take a lot of effort and it is alarming that it appears they might not even have done that.....
Only way to make a car racier is a good racer. Take red bull in F1 for example, or target reynard with Zanardi and Montoya. Good racer will make even bad car better, take Bordais who is doing great job with minor team and car. In Andretti car I believe he would be contender for top four or better. My opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahFan
Air box on turbo engine is BBs touch , as hi did not have anything else or smart for special comity meeting when new car was planed. My hope is when teams have their trim design in 2013 that car will look much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
Do you really think that will happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by FIAT1