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Originally Posted by Plan9
NZ = a couple of hundred people and a few million sheep, its like Ireland where I'm from, we dont signify globally
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Originally Posted by Plan9
NZ = a couple of hundred people and a few million sheep, its like Ireland where I'm from, we dont signify globally
I honestly don't think Possum has been forgotten in any way. The name was soooo well known and people still reocgnise it very quickly. The reason he won't be forgotten anytime soon is the character and personality that he was. I remember very clearly on the Rally NZ no one got a bigger cheer than Possum from the fans, they were there to see him.
This is very ugly. I have never seen a team treating their best driver so badly. I truly hope that Loeb will win the series and retire in style. I don't think that he will accept a new challenge at that age, be it WV or the WTCC.
Australia claimed him as our own.. Like we always do :)Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCfan
He's not going to the WTCC as he said on his website : Site officiel de Sébastien Loeb - HomeQuote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
According to the mentally handicapped then he is going to Le Mans.....
OFFICIAL !!!!! Sébasten Loeb remains in Citroën Racing for 2012 and 2013 !!!! :D :bounce:
But the story doesn't tell if Olivier Quesnel will be again team manager next year though :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Live news from AutoHebdo website ;)
If it's true - great. I would have really liked to see him with another manufacturer... but anyway I'm happy to see Seb for at least another 2 seasons. :)
Now I want Loeb in Le Mans too :)
Pussy!
Good news! Now there are two more seasons for the opponents to beat him. He showed that he is not coward and do not want to leave unbeaten :-)
*yawn*
now it's also on wrc.com
World Rally Championship - News - Loeb extends WRC stint by two more years
YES !!!!!!!!!
all the ladyboys can cry now ...LOL LOL LOL
This decision makes the VW driver choice really interesting....
Another positive from this contract is that all these mentally non-privileged sheep drama loving soap opera girls are going to SHUT UP with their Le mans WTCC Nascar for at least 2 years....which is a relief for me at least.
That's a shame for VW boys.
I didn't know that rallying is popular in Thailand...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Great news!
It makes sense for Citroen to keep him. He has become an icon for the company.
No comment of Olivier Quesnel, which had announced the signature of the actual contract of Loeb...
It would seem that Citroën becomes aware that a great team with great drivers deserves a great Team Manager and that Quesnel will not be seen at his post in future???
It's Frederick Banzet, Citroën General Manager said: « Sebastian Loeb is great one ambassador for Citroën. His picture and ours are hard linked today. He represents boldness, sportsmanship, mind of competition, of values which are dear to us. We are proud of his fidelity to Citroën and that he follows his career with the team which has carried him since his beginning. »
Citroën Sport.
Smart move of the noble senior (Loeb) - hard time for the arrogant junior (Ogier).
MaxRally | News | Sordo: Loeb was wrong not to join VW
“It’s good for him but he should have taken the risk and gone to Volkswagen,” said Sordo. “Everybody knows he is the best but he is in the best car with the best team and this will continue for two more years. It is an easy way for him.”
Sordo: Loeb could have proved himself more by signing with Volkswagen - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
"He should have gone to VW," said the Spaniard. "Everybody knows Sebastien is the best and two more years in the same car will be easy for him. Going to Volkswagen would have been more of a challenge."
"It's not closed yet, but it looks like he could make eight titles this year," said Latvala. "With that, I thought he might go. He has achieved everything, with all of his wins and by showing that he can win in the new car - but I'm sure he'll find more motivation again. Maybe he has targeted 10 titles and this is his new aim.
"Loeb was born with Citroen and, even though Sebastien Ogier is a fantastic driver, it would be very difficult for them to fill this place of Loeb."
Loeb re-signing with Citroen for 2 more years is basically a non-story. So what, the status quo remains. I would have liked to see him out of his comfort zone in a foreign team. It would have made the sport more interesting, particularly for the non-Rally followers. Moving wouldn't have had any affect on his 'legacy'. He'll still be the GOAT.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
I hope so. Quesnel has a good record in WRC, but he inherited a winning team and has the best driver. The results of Peugeot in Le Mans are very disturbing and IMO he talks too much and makes some emotional decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by René
Are you referring to the last le man 24 hours when he cried because he lost?Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
:rotflmao:
Sorry to bring that up again, I couldn't help it ;)
I don't mean the crying part, but the whole management... lots and lots of talking and then...Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
Drama queens and ladyboys unite and rejoice....
World Rally Championship - News - Loeb and Ogier set for tense finale
we don't need such coverage for our sport...
these things can only bring more fat couch potato F1 fans to our sport which is not good.
The only way to be on top of the three for... ever-more-more-more...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Seems that the Citroen management have take the control over Quesnel.
I'm sure it would be different if it were the two fords ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Just finished watching Rally Deutschland. I'm still confused, day 2, team tells Ogier to not push. Of course he ignores them and pushes Loeb. My guess is he is trying to prove to the world how he is just as good as Loeb, he'll probably slow on the last stage of the last day so that he can say he has fulfilled his team orders. What the h__l is that? You are supposed to SLOW down not just stay behind the guy!
What happens, Loeb gets a puncture and loses over a minute. Other than pissing off a lot of viewers why doesn't Quesnel slow down Ogier to give that time back to Loeb? Sounds stupid as I write this but what kind of contract do you sign if you're Loeb, the one that says you are no longer number one at Citroen?
I'm a Ford guy anyway but it still bugs me.
I can see why he's not going to VW, a totally new unproven program in the WRC. Yes I know how great they run the Dakar. I wish he went to Ford, like many others have said, it would really piss off Quesnel and maybe let us see if it's been the car or the driver all these years.
Ogier followed the team orders on day 2...Loeb admitted he was cruising and that he did not push so it was normal for ogier to gain some time if he went a little faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back-N-Black
The puncture was just bad luck given the pace they both had.
Loeb never signed a contract in his career with No1 status on it...in Citroen they have a s rule that both driver start from the same position but when 1 driver takes the lead by a confortable margin he becomes No1...and as individual rallies go then team orders are applied to the leader of the rally to win when there is no fear from Ford. Thats why they employed team orders so early in germany because ford was too far behind and it would be stupid to let them fight for 2 whole days risking everything.
of course people who like soap operas and star trek universe theories see things like Ogier not following team orders, Loeb signing contracts as No1, Ogier going to VW in 2 weeks, Quesnel being sent to prison by Citroen management ects...
You can't ask this much to Ogier. Obviusly nobody like team orders that prevent you to fight for 1st position, but he followed them, indeed both him and Loeb were "almost-cruising", since the others were ages behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back-N-Black
The puncture of Loeb was bad luck. It would have been stupid and ridicolous if Ogier had to slow down and stop for more than a minute to let Loeb pass. THAT would have really pissed me off.
Now we know why Ogier was furious :
He discovered in Germany that he was the deceived husband of the system Loeb. Now Ogier won't win in the future because the big boss of Citroen said Loeb must win the championship. French people love Loeb so Loeb must win. In the new contract, Loeb would be the exclusive number one
Business is more important than sport :rolleyes:
Everybody loves a good conspiracy theory but I beg to differ.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Looking at the stage times it looks a lot to me like Ogier never slowed until the stage AFTER Loeb got the puncture. I can't tell right now which stage was in what part of the day but check SS11, 12 and 13. All times faster than Mikko one even faster than Loeb.
What you suggest about how the No 1 driver is determined makes sense, I guess you are probably right? Seems like the number 1 driver for as many years as Loeb has been would be able to come up with something better though. He needs a better agent, heh heh.
Now we're gonna see the real Loeb until the end of championship. He'll win with more than a minute in France.
you are wrong... sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back-N-Black