same tyres...different cars...and in an event where tyre choice defined the winner not the speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
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same tyres...different cars...and in an event where tyre choice defined the winner not the speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Accidentally this changed nothing on situation of these two as both made same disasterous choice. Except that it was clear. Even Sarrazin was way faster than Solberg. I wanted to show that it isn't possible to define explicit speed of a driver since in rallying there are way too many factors which are involved (of course unless they have same cars, same tyres, same road, same weather, same codriver, same testing...). And that applies for every event, not only Monte Carlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
A Ford Transit doing Rally?
Nothing new here in Portugal :P
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i rally reports VW Preparing a Polo for WRC led by french engineer FX Demaison .This probably adds more fuel on the fire with the Petter rumour.
Not really. Until he and Juho did that horrible tyre choice, Petter was the quickest Peugeot. And bare in mind that he only had tested the car in wet conditions, so his speed was very impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
This's silly.. This guys drive s2000 cars for years and P.Solberg drove only one rally..
I was listening to Total Rally podcast the other day and the point was raised that the VW Group does not like the way Juho has consistently outperformed Jan K. and that they only put Juho in the SWRC as a way to get rid of him and allow Jan K to win a IRC title (I think this will never happen however). My guess is that Petter and Nasser will be at VW for awhile and Juho will have to find a drive with someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
On that note, would VW do a full year in 2012 or do a small number of events like Mini this year??? Would Petter be happy to only do about 7 events in a incomplete car or would he be allowed to use the citroen?
VW group has a future WRC star in Hanninen, and will probarly not let him go if they have any sence. So who should Citroen pick as a number two driver, fast enough to score points on gravel AND tarmac if Loeb is leaving WRC after this year? Who is available and fast enough right from the start on 2012?
Yes, I am sure they are devastated they signed and developed such a talented driver. Maybe they put the wrong tyres on his car on Monte to make him lose that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
I'm sorry, but I think that is rubbish. Maybe some marketing people at Skoda CZ would like Kopecky to do better but I can't see it going further than that.
Back to the topic, I think with a year or so experience of driving the WRC events and with the turbo cars it wouldn't take long for Juho to be ahead of Hirvonen. And on asphalt he is possibly Finland's best rally driver already.
Unfortunately that doesn't take much... we suck on tarmac :mark:Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
That was because Sarrazin lost a lot of time in SS2 without intercom. Otherwise he was fastest Peugeot driver in most of the stages, especially last night. Anyway that wasn't my point which was to show how difficult is to judge driver's performance from occasional appearance in other series.Quote:
Originally Posted by nr7wave
Škoda sells some 750 thousand cars per year. From this number some 6-7% in CZ. There's no sense in pushing Kopecký because of a marginal market. Of course his father has quite large influence on Škoda Motorsport activities and Juho in SWRC suits him to have his son more visible. But in the end it looks like Juho will most likely do both championships (although IRC limited). And by the way Juho and Jan are good friends...Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
With the exception of Latvala!Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
I don't think VW care much about Juho at all as they also have Andreas Mikkelsen so they are not pressed for talent at all. Beside the SWRC does not get as much press as the IRC so its really a sideways move for him.
Sandell?Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
True about Mikkelsen but I don't agree with Your statement about Juho. You're right that SWRC doesn't have so high competition level but is run on same stages as WRC and that's the point. You can't just come to WRC and win since the very first stage. Gaining experience from these events is crucial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
In my opinion he won't be able to fight for podium on IRC tarmac events. Soon we'll see...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Must be proved drivers-champs from WRC/JWRC/recent IRC..
First of all one has to remember that Citroën uses the WRC as an advertising tool, so they will look for a fast all-round driver that will create awareness in their key-markets. That would most likely be another french driver or a spanish driver but since their are no drivers ready from these two countries I am absolutely sure that Citroën will give Petter Solberg the seat alongside Ogier in 2012. PSolberg might not be french or spanish but he for sure is a popular driver in many countries and he has now proven for the last 2 years that he can deliver the nessesary point that Citroën needs for the Manufacturers' championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
So should PSolberg get an offer from VW he will of course use that to get a better deal with Citroën. I don't see him wanting to start with a new team at his age - right now he wants to try and win raliies again.
What!!! Latvala's best result is a 4th place on tarmac ... that's clearly in the "sucking"-zone.
Latvala is a REAL sucker.. :D
I dont think Latvala could do any better with the Focus, that thing looked like a Hot Dog sales van on tarmac.
Well, both Hirvonen and Duval were faster on tarmac in the same car, so that's a clear indication that Latvala is really poor on tarmac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
do not worry 2 weeks until the childrens sport starts so the number of post not worth replying to to will be diminished....maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Both were faster some years ago, last year Latvala was faster than Hirvonnen and Duval on tarmac, Duval was only sixth before crashing in Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
But fastest on the longest stage..
No. First Panzerplatte 1. Loeb, 5. Duval +31. Second Panzerplatte crash...
Last year Latvala was faster than Hirvonen on 2 of the tarmac rounds but he was still slow. After all Loeb, Sordo and PSolberg were a lot faster than him. And the comparison with Duval last year is unfair. The guy hadn't driven a WRC car for a year and yet he was on par with Latvala. Nomatter how you twist and turn it Latvala is slow on tarmac - the guy hasn't got a single tarmac podium in a sport that has only had 2 manufacturers for the last 2 years - that says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
I think no one could run as fast as the Citroen in a Ford, in 2010. This was caused by both a very successful senterdiff for Citroen, as Ford's priorities of a good car on a slippery surface. Hope they do not have the same priority this year (am afraid they have made the same mistake again).
Big differences in the current homologated diffs respectively Ford and Citroen.
Latvala is not very fast on tarmac but it's good to get facts right before posting negative things. Latvala got his first WRC podium on tarmac (Ireland 2007).Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
I thought about ford guys..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I wasn't counting Ireland as a pure tarmac event, but i guess you are right, so I stand corrected :) ...and btw I wasn't posting negative things - I was just stating that he was slow on tarmac and that's accurate not negative.Quote:
Originally Posted by vkangas
Is this topic about VW joining WRC??
Well, apparently VW made a 10 million offer to Loeb, which he refused.
Maybe VW should offer him 10 millon euro for the VW rally team AND a seat for the Audi Le Mans team. This offer he would never refuse
funny stories.....do we expect an official announcement from VW ?
Rally Portugal should be the big moment
Hmm, and which Audi driver would he replace...???Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
About Le Mans, I diddnt think Loeb liked endurance driving?
Back on topic, I cant see him joining VW. But they could do a lot worse than ask Petter. How about PG??
yes i heard that loeb is going to announce that he leaves rallying to do his great passion....le man series.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
1 week until the season starts....Yay !!! Go F1 !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
NOT is mad again.. :D