Congrats to Justin Wilson for the getting the pole.
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Congrats to Justin Wilson for the getting the pole.
bud light lime????Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
I'll take a Guiness or a Sam Adams Boston Lager, 2 very good beers
Well done Justin. P1.
Gary
I do enjoy a Corona with lime on a REALLY hot day. But my favorites are the IPA's. Lagunita, Bells Two Hearted, Dog Fish Head, Sam Adams new Lattitude 48.
Gary
Look for Justin and Will to check out tomorrow early. There is going to be lots of carnage with 25.5 cars on the streets. You can pass here though, should be fun to watch.
I drink mostly Scotch or Brandy straight up. Sometimes Rye (Cdn.) also straight up.
At the track on a hot day Red Baron Lime made by Brick Breweries, an independent. Muskoka Lager is also good.
Whoa! Go Randy Bernard!! Just slammed Milka saying it isn't a rich man's club and she hurts the credibilty of the IZOD Indycar Series. Good Man.
100% agree, so they should do something and not let her start tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
I very much expect it will be start and park. Handling or brake problems will be official reason. A black flag may not be shown as it likely will be done by radio.
Remember what I told you about agreeing with me right? You'd be right much more often!Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
Later guys, going to be a fun race tomorrow. It's 115 here so I'm going to go get myselft a Bud Lime!!! :cool:
Here is your starting grid..
Row 1
#22 Justin Wilson
#12 Will Power
Row 2
#3 Helio Castroneves
#37 Ryan Hunter-Reay
Row 3
#10 Dario Franchitti
#9 Scott Dixon
Row 4
#6 Ryan Briscoe
#11 Tony Kanaan
Row 5
#77 Alex Tagliani
#26 Marco Andretti
Row 6
#2 Raphael Matos
#7 Danica Patrick
Row 7
#8 EJ Viso
#02 Graham Rahal
Row 8
#4 Dan Wheldon
#36 Bertrand Baguette
Row 9
#34 Mario Romancini
#5 Takuma Sato
Row 10
#24 Tomas Scheckter
#32 Mario Moraes
Row 11
#78 Simona De Silvestro
#06 Hideki Mutoh
Row 12
#19 Alex Lloyd
#15 Paul Tracy
Row 13
#18 Milka Duno
#14 Vitor Meira
TSN has just bumped coverage of the Cdn Tire race from TSN to TSN2 which I and most Cdns. do not get. It is a premium channel. It was supposed to be on TSN.
At least I can watch the Indy race on ABC tomorrow as again in Canada it is on TSN2.
Shows what our sports network thinks of racing.
Not only did Justin Wilson get the pole, he set the new track record with a lap time of 1:00.2710 and a speed of 104.827 mph. Kudos Justin.
Justin ran a 58.182 in '06...not sure what recored book you're looking at.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
In fact, in '07, the entire field was faster than the pole time today.
Of course I do, but I also know that the records and record books were officially combined with the merger...so, the official track record was not set today, unless you qualify it with an asterik or something. Of course, we all knew that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
Were the record books really combined? I remember a big fuss about Scott Dixon becoming the winningest IndyCar driver... I don't know what A.J. thought about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
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Originally Posted by NickFalzone
As a person ages, there are certain physiological changes that affect his ability to be a racing driver. The field of vision narrows, acuity lessens, and moving objects are seen less clearly. I stayed in Formula Ford until I was 40, and at that time I could begin to notice the decline. I get the impression that as long as a driver is at speed frequently that the rate of decline is less, but if you're out of the car for an extended period of time that your visual acuity declines from that of a racing driver to what a non-driver experiences.
I've noticed that most open wheel drivers begin to lose pace at about age 35. I think that HCN is experiencing that right now. He's still plenty racy, but I think you'll see that he wins fewer races than he used to, and when he does win it will be from a combination of speed and racecraft.
PT is 41, and will be 42 in December. During the last years of ChampCar, he didn't have the ultimate pace of some of the other drivers. Since then, he's been mostly out of racing. Undoubtedly, much of his poor showing is due to less-than-topnotch equipment, but I'd suspect that age and his limited schedule are part of the issue.
yeah, it's disappointing, but probably true. PT is 3-4 years past his prime and his recent results are not just due to poor equipment. I am only 31 but have noticed that sometimes I need to turn my head more to see traffic when making turns, my field of vision is definitely a few degrees less than it once was. I'd guess that in top equipment, PT could still be a threat, but the combination of time off, age, and so-so equipment has really come together this year in a negative way.Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerFF
It's a series track record, not the official track record. The official track record is the 58.182 set by JW in a Champ Car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
Maybe once the new cars come out in a couple of years, they will be able to set 'a new track record'! ;)
Props to JW for pole. But a lap record???
I expected it to be against the laws of physics for a crappwaggon to hold a lap record.
So JW manages to beat the fastest time from last year - big deal. The IRL has only raced at Toronto once before, in 2009.
It would be a bigger suprise if they weren't able to beat last years time.
Call me when they get close to the Champcar record.
PT once was a force to contend, especially when he had good equipment. But even he has admitted in recent articles he was mostly a "feel" driver who just pushed to the limit (and often beyond), not a technical driver who had very precise lines, braking markers, etc. That made him fun to watch as he just hustled the car around a track, but age seems to have hurt him more than some others, especially since he has gotten so little seat time,Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerFF
Some drivers managed to run very well at even older ages, but many, like Rick Mears were known as very precise drivers who used their experience to anticipate what the car would do and were prepared to react even before the car made a move. If their reflexes slowed a bit, it didn't hurt them very much. But if you are relying on quick reflexes to save the car rather than anticipating, slower reactions due to age could really hurt. That was also in an era where G-forces and the cars reactions were a bit slower.
Most drivers have mentioned how "edgy" most modern race cars have become as they have been honed to very fine degrees. It takes very quick and conditioned reactions to get the most out of them. In almost all series (even NASCAR), it is becoming more of a young person's game.
As we get older, it seems often the mind is willing, but the body just doesn't cooperate. ;)
Report from the track is attendance is up from last year but still light compared to earlier years. The ban on your own food and especially water is really annoying a lot of people.
Hot Dogs $4 and a Burger $5. Not really out of line there.
Trans Am field is pathetic. 8 cars and only 5 anywhere near competitive.
Be interesting to see the crowd today. There is a threat of thunderstorms but supposedly not until late afternoon. With the heat and humidity they can pop up anytime, especially near any of the Great Lakes.
While nobody is going to aruge that PT isn't past his prime, and many statements you and FormerFF have made are absolutely true, I think PT even today is one of the top 8 or so best drivers on today's grid. No doubt, and best said, that lack of seat time and some less than stellar equipment are contributing here. Lets not forget that as a part time driver now for 3 years he has been competitive each and every race with some teams that aren't known to be toward the front. His drive at Edmonton under all the circumstances in '08 was spectacular and he was pretty much the best of the non-Ganassi and Penske cars from Toronto, Edmonton, and Mid-Ohio last year. I know his Toronot finish didn't show it last year but we all saw how he raced....my God the IRL hasn't seen that much passing on a street course in its history.Quote:
Originally Posted by beachbum
It sounds to me like PT is working on positive momentum to have himself a full-gig next year if you follow him and his associates on all the boards and Twitter. That could fall through but sounds positive at least. If he gets in a car for a full year and struggles week in and week out then it is time to hang it up but I don't see him struggling on a consistent basis like some other big name drivers today.
ED, my GF and I were discussing this last night 9along with making fun of Bud Lime) as she's never been to the Toronto event. We were comparing it to Long Beach and she says she's had her water/Gatorade and stuff confiscated at least 2 of the past 3 years. I personally don't remember taking anything in, got tons and tons of stuff there that is a staple of going in the first place. Maybe it isn't as uncommon as we suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
Some posters have been full of praise for Randy's criticism of Milka's lack of pace--but jeez, what a pathetic display to say they'll evaluate it at the end of the season! It's like watching a shoplifter take something right in front of you and say you'll evaluate whether to go after them when the store closes... Someone should explain to him how to stand up on his hind legs and act like the leader of the Series.
Changing the subject radically-----Bud Light Lime--isn't that what you use to clean your car's wheels?
They beat that back in the 90's I believe....99 was a 57.143, GdF. 03 Was around a 58.90 PT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex
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Originally Posted by beachbum
Roberto Moreno? Won a race (or two) in his 40s, no?
Not saying PT isn't still one of the better drivers on track, he just isn't what he once was. With a very tight field, even being a "tick" off can be 10 spots. He is still a racer who may not have the ultimate speed, but knows how to get the most out of what he has. He is also always still fun the watch. I was never much of a PT fan when he was younger, but today I admire his dedication and that fact he still has the desire and drive to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
That illustrates what I was saying. Moreno was a very skillful and precise driver, which is why he was a great test driver and a "super-sub". He was a thinking driver who could extend his career - and did. He was also very very good when he was younger.Quote:
Originally Posted by drewdawg727
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Milka's off
Watching PT's in car and radio...nice moves. Really surprised to see Marco holding up an absolute freight train. The group is just ahead of PT and Schekter.
LOL!!! LOL!!! 2 KV cars crash each other...now that is efficiency. They're going to crash anyway..might as well do it together!!!
For restart, PT on alternate strategy
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Helio misjudged that 1!
Ah, it's an ABC race, so the online footage is just the helicopter wobbling above the track. It only focusses on a few cars, has no replays, loses cars behind buildings, and missed the start because it was shooting some planes. Great.
What happened to Castroneves?
Oh come on! Some racing would be nice. Moraes again, have these incidents all been his fault?
But Watkins Glen was also an ABC race and that had the normal race footage? :s I'm seriously pissed with this though! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikki Katz
There is not much racing on anyway, it's been almost nonstop yellow since lap 18...
Getting a good green run at the moment
TOP 5 after lap 43
1. Franchitti
2. Power
3. Wilson
4. Hunter-Reay
5. Dixon
Great work from Wilson's crew, he's now jumped both Power and Franchitti to take the lead
TOP 10 after lap 58
1. Wilson
2. Power
3. Franchitti
4. Dixon
5. Hunter-Reay
6. Kanaan
7. Briscoe
8. Rahal
9. Andretti
10. Patrick