OK but how can lewis say that he did not need the tyres from the last stop ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
just because jensen made it to the end on the tyre dose not mean that lewis would have
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OK but how can lewis say that he did not need the tyres from the last stop ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
just because jensen made it to the end on the tyre dose not mean that lewis would have
He has done karting to fill his timeQuote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Schumi is one of my favourite drivers. I have called him Schumi and not Schuey because that is how he likes his name to be shortened/nickname.
By his standards he drove as if he should've stayed retired but I will give him the benefit of the doubt in future.
I just watched a replay of the accident again and I noticed Alonso badly locked up a brake on that corner. Hamilton was right up beside Alonso and in a great position to finally pass him on the outside and instead slammed on his brakes (as he had to as Alonso didn't have control of his car). Unfortunately, Webber was trying to follow Hamilton through past Alonso and had nowhere to go, taking out Hamilton in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
For me, donkey of the race goes to whoever it was in the Red Bull garage who decided to leave Vettel and Webber out on inters while every one else changed to drys. They were a clear 1st and 2nd before that, but after it they were in a lot more trouble.
Hamilton pulled off some great overtaking moves today but then started whining in the closing stages which really peeved me off. Sore loser. In contrast, Alonso was struggling with Massa ahead and just on with it :up:
Well, it's the German way of shortening it — the surname would never be shortened to 'Schuey' in German. A small but important difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
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Originally Posted by wedge
I was just reading some stats from the race, MS finished 1:09.391 behind Button. Though Schumi spent almost a whole extra minute just on pit road compared to Button (1:26.773 to buttons 27.295) suggesting his race form wasn't all that bad considering the traffic he had to deal with... :p :
I'm not even sure Webber drove well enough to be considered the donkey of the race. What an idiot, several times!
Donkey of the race? Button!
I don't care how well it worked out, he went to slicks too soon.
Well, just about everyone here has voted Mark "Donkey" of the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
Let's hope he kicks ass in the next race. :eek:
Button ruined Alonso's race by being in his blind spot?! Alonso made a mistake. Yes a racing incident, but totally the Spaniard's fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by ojciec dyrektor
I would also like to add Ferrari for having mirrors that aren't actually in the drivers peripheral vision.
I have a small herd of donkeys for this race. Webber made too many mistakes. Hamilton behaved once more like a spoiled brat. Massa had to be told by his engineer how to take the last corner. The fact he finished 3rd was pure luck. The Schumacher again looked average in an average car. Thank you very much for coming back and showing us how little statistcs mean. I was also very disappointed to see Lotus starting the race with just one car.
Mark was still going far too quick for that corner. Okay so he said that the nose was raised but IMO he gambled too much on Hamilton getting through on one of the best drivers in the business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ent
I don't get this...he's frustrated so showed it. People can't have it both ways and moan that he's being a "mclaren robot" then moan when he shows he's angry. Give the guy a break, he could have scored a podium were it not for an enitrely dumb team call and then Webber having total brain fade.Quote:
Originally Posted by 52Paddy
You want him to say he was happy with the result and getting some points?
Lewis showed a complete lack of class IMO. It wasn't that he complained, it was the way that he did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
No! Everytime things are not going his way in the team, he is whining! Alonso was like this in Renault and McLaren (although in the latter case I think that he had good reasons), and I am really happy that he was different yesterday, unlike Lewis. I so hoped that he won't be like this, I think that if he loses another race in which Jenson is 1st he'd say that he is a second driver. Hopefully I am wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/0...-of-a-victory/ - this article is very interesting about the case IMO.
Moan is one thing, public moaning on purpose is another.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
What is his agenda?
The other day Lewis was arrested, huh, no moaning from the team!
I´m afraid Lewis isn´t Martins closest love anymoore.
I'm actually starting to think that maybe replacing Webber with Kimi for 2011 wouldn't be a bad idea at all. :p :
The task of a second driver is to collect the goods, when the first driver has hit trouble, but Webber has done none of it so far. Quite staggering that Vettel still has twice as many points as Webber, despite suffering from two car failures in two races against Webber's zero. Webber is clearly fast and when he doesn't make mistakes, he is very close to Vettel's pace (one tenth off in qualifying in Oz), but something has been clearly wrong with his head in the beginning of this season. Not to mention that Webber has a reputation of being a dangerous driver by pushing off the track or ramming drivers (Alonso Spain'09, Barrichello Germany '09).
That is a very good article, as ever from James.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
I just think people read way too much into it - he had huge pace yesterday but got shunted out. the post-race interview he was angry, and who wouldn't be. I bet today he is more restrained because he sees how things played out but 5 mins after the race i'd expected nothing less than what he showed.
The radio conversation was a different matter. That showed immaturity but then this is only his third season.
Lewis' biggest issue was his qualification performance that wasn't up to his usual standards and that put him under pressure. Not to mention the police incident...all in all not a great weekend for him
I apologize. I forgot we don't want pr robots anymore. So if he reacted like a spoiled brat, his natural way, I should be glad and even like him for it, right?
It is a good article, even if it simply points out what people too often tend to forget:Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
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Button is 30 years old and ten years into his F1 career, whereas Hamilton is 25 and only three years in. Perhaps because he won the title so early in his career and has been a front runner since day one, we forget that he still isn’t the complete package...
Air-ton/Aye-air-ton - I'd rather pronounce the latter out of respect for Senna.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Same with Kubi-za and not Kubi-ka
Mark Webber = Dickhead
Reb Bull should give his seat to anyone but him. Another rubbish drive.
Vettel reacts better, at least when he speaks about his team, and he is even younger. But what is done is done, I disapprove, keep my fingers crossed for Jenson, time to move on :)Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
I wonder who holds the record over the last three seasons for chopping and running into folks??? Could that be none other than everyone's favorite serial chopper??
It's not like the first time he takes publicly such a stance against the team that backed him for so long and gave him a competitive car from day one. I don't recall any driver being backed like that or any rookie being put above a 2 times wdc. Yes, it's my opinion that this guy has a despicable character and all he does seem to prove I'm not wrong. He was the one that created the tension between FA and McLaren in Hungary and it worked fine for him but no one can say the same thing about the team. Even so they were behind him. Why? I don't know. Than he lied to disqualify an opponent and when discovered blamed again someone else from his team. And now this.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I was a McLaren fan before LH came along. Maybe some day they'll give him the boot. He deserves it.
I agree it's not the first time Hamilton has voiced his frustration, but then he's a competitive racing driver. He was hardly going to be happy about the way his Australian race panned out, particularly as his new team mate was up front winning the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
There are similarities between Hamilton and Vettel as they both want to win, and they're both demanding of their teams. I have thought a number of times that Vettel has appeared very pissed off in front of the press when things haven't gone his way, but again I think that's understandable and in many ways it's good that we see their personalities in this way.
For some reason Hamilton seems to be the target of more criticism that others and this may have something to do with the way he made his way into F1. Some feel he was "gifted" his seat at McLaren, but whether that view is justified or not, the fact is he's a competitive sportsman who does not like losing.
It's not the 'correct' way of doing things.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
By all means voice your fustrations over the radio but no to the media, such things should be done behind closed doors.
Schumi has never done this and Massa has done well in taking Schumi's mantra of 'win as a team, lose as a team'.
I do not think he has learned that, and by now, since he has not, then he never will, although many others (including big name journalists) have said the same from the beginning of his driving as an F1 driver three years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
I used to have a big collection of his quotes in various posts that I guess remain somewhere buried in the archives, but one constant theme was how I could do this and do that, got the pole in Canada his first year because I am a better driver that did what no other driver could do...AND HOW I WON......but when it was less than stellar, it was either "we" or "they" or "the team" that did not do so well....
You would think that he would have learned by now that "I won, we lost" does not sit so well with some folks, esp. I would think with his team members....
but like I said, there are these political types, that no matter how bad they screw up, they walk through it as though it never happenned....perhaps explaining why I am where I am.
as to hating, I would hope we all recognize that in the world, f1 is of relatively minor importance, (read this morning's news about the Moscow subway) and while I am as quilty as anyone in bashing/making fun of drivers, it is not intended as hatred, but just more entertainment and fun
OTOH, if the fire don't burn, then they should not be there :vader:
and I think it burns in every driver whoever managed to make it to the f1 grid throughout history--with some it is a little more appearant either through their driving or their mouth :s mokin:
and speaking of why I am where I am, I gots to go cause I am late too work.... :eek:
How do we know Schumi has never done it? We rarely got to hear Ferrari's radio comms when he was there, but I agree that the radio is one thing, and speaking to the media after the race is another.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Hamilton too has often expressed the 'win as a team, lose as a team' mantra.
Many other posters have argued the point which I want to bring across. But, I guess I was comparing his demeanour to Button more than anything. Think of it, Button's race went downhill right from the beginning. He was left at the tail end of the field after a spin and, when he pitted for dry tyres, his car looked undriveable. I said to myself at that stage, "Well, Button's race is over." But, the tyres began to work and he ended up driving on and winning. There was no hostility between Button and the team. He wasn't bad-mouthing them when he went to drys, even when that setup didn't look favourable.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
In Hamilton's case, he screwed up Qualifying. Then the team made a decision which was obviously with intentions of getting him to achieve a better result. He drove his heart out, no doubt, and the strategy may have compromised his run. But, Hamilton's driving style is far more aggressive that Button's so who is to say that, with a one-stop, Hamilton may have knackered his tyres and spun off or punctured. To let out at the team in the way he did I find to be immature. Which he is. He's only got 3 years experience. Yet, I can't help in thinking that he believes he's at the top of his game and has nothing to improve on. That if something goes wrong, it's the teams fault. He needs to build character and I believe he will, as many greats have done in the past. It's just annoying for the time-being and, as a result, he's my donkey of the race :)
Funny, being a McLaren driver with McLaren blood you would've thought that would've been drilled into him by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
As with Rubens 'Blah, blah' Barrichello and Fernando 'sixth-tenths' Alonso it goes to show that there's nothing worse than being beaten by your team mate.
A shame we never saw how Schumi would've handled such debacles.
Huh? He is beaten twice now by Rosberg and he didn't blame the team and only praised Nico.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Donkey of the race? All those who said this year would be boring after Bahrain! :)
Hah, so true :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
So thrue. Webber are under great pressure, but thats no excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I vote Bernie as Donkey of the race for the second year running for making the race start later making it harder to watch, I luckily managed to stay awake for the race but fell asleep and missed qualifying :mad:
Webber for sure.
Webber closely followed by Alonso
Good thing it wasn't the other way, Webber might have nerfed him off too. :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by RMLCruzeing82