Future Rally Media Coverage

Take analogue reciever and normal satelite plate antenna and watch Eurosport Europe for free. That's how I watch it.

I have used MTV3's Katsomo.fi online service. Whole WRC season 2011 was under 30€ - a very reasonable price.

(Unfortunately it has not been working outside Finland. Maybe some guru could make it work trough a proxy server...? :rolleyes: Trying should atleast be very easy as there is also free content...)

So, are they going to show the Onboard Special also this year?
Thanks.

Nothing has been added on the WRC.com site for well over a week, is it still running? Will they still be posting the live stage times? Will they still broadcast WRR?

I can't see any highlights show in the Eurosport Player program schedule, am I missing something?

When fans don't even know what is going on, it really show that the WRC has turned to total sh*t. It really is a poor show.

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Originally Posted by Doon

Nothing has been added on the WRC.com site for well over a week, is it still running? Will they still be posting the live stage times? Will they still broadcast WRR?

I can't see any highlights show in the Eurosport Player program schedule, am I missing something?

When fans don't even know what is going on, it really show that the WRC has turned to total sh*t. It really is a poor show.

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There's an interesting article in The Times of London today saying that the Manufacturers, the Teams and associated stakeholders are vehemently opposed the any deal with Eurosport. This they feel will permanently relegate it to subscription TV across most of the world. The loss of a potential ITV4 deal being an example I gues of what will likely happen across many territories in the World.
Why would any terrestrial broadcaster buy something that is already on Eurosport that also covers their territory.
Perhaps this Eurosport thing is far from a done deal.

wrc.com can be considered dead for the time being.

Last year I had already thought, Rally Coverage + other sports are no longer free for us in the future.

ITV4 would be the ideal solution. BTCC is already on there.

Last night I saw Eurosport advertising their Monte Carlo coverage, begins Wednesday at 23.00.

World Rally Radio

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Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1

World Rally Radio

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What's your point?

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Originally Posted by rallyfiend

There's an interesting article in The Times of London today saying that the Manufacturers, the Teams and associated stakeholders are vehemently opposed the any deal with Eurosport. This they feel will permanently relegate it to subscription TV across most of the world. The loss of a potential ITV4 deal being an example I gues of what will likely happen across many territories in the World.
Why would any terrestrial broadcaster buy something that is already on Eurosport that also covers their territory.
Perhaps this Eurosport thing is far from a done deal.

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As you say, this is very interesting. Eurosport isn't on FTA in all countries, is it? That's always been my slight problem with Eurosport. In all honesty, while both IRC/ WTCC are on Eurosport - they've never really made it into 'mainstream'. Andy Priaulx won 3 WTCC titles - yet most BTCC drivers are better known than him. And why? It's on ITV4.....

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Originally Posted by Mark

What's your point?

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The point is that now I know also where to find World Rally Radio. I didnt know it before and I am far more happier now :-)

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As you say, this is very interesting. Eurosport isn't on FTA in all countries, is it? That's always been my slight problem with Eurosport. In all honesty, while both IRC/ WTCC are on Eurosport - they've never really made it into 'mainstream'. Andy Priaulx won 3 WTCC titles - yet most BTCC drivers are better known than him. And why? It's on ITV4.....

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Yep, for the majority of the country, and all of the country by September, ITV4 will assume the status of terrestrial channel, notionally no different to the likes of BBC2 because everyone will be able to receive it, the same cannot be said of Eurosport.

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Originally Posted by Doon

Nothing has been added on the WRC.com site for well over a week, is it still running? Will they still be posting the live stage times? Will they still broadcast WRR?

I can't see any highlights show in the Eurosport Player program schedule, am I missing something?

When fans don't even know what is going on, it really show that the WRC has turned to total sh*t. It really is a poor show.

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Worrying about the WRC site ...

ES is showing highlights on my Sky+ schedule :)

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Originally Posted by rallyfiend

There's an interesting article in The Times of London today saying that the Manufacturers, the Teams and associated stakeholders are vehemently opposed the any deal with Eurosport. This they feel will permanently relegate it to subscription TV across most of the world. The loss of a potential ITV4 deal being an example I gues of what will likely happen across many territories in the World.
Why would any terrestrial broadcaster buy something that is already on Eurosport that also covers their territory.
Perhaps this Eurosport thing is far from a done deal.

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Eurosport will be able to cover the events (i.e. produce the programmes), but FIA must honour running contracts with a number of TV channels across the globe. As an example, in the Scandinavian countries Viasat has a contract with North One with rights to broadcast the WRC. The contract was originally for three years 2010-2012. Viasat lawyers are now studying the contracts, and there is no doubt that Viasat considers the contract to be valid also for 2012. But FIA has so far not been able to confirm that Viasat will receive the programmes as contracted, and Viasat does not know two days before the rally starts wether they will get the programmes or not. If FIA choses to break excisting and running contracts (with a number of channels) and solely broadcast everything on Eurosport, it will put FIA in a very difficult position re. future negotiations and possible deals. If the TV-channels suspect that they can not trust FIA, it will be very challenging for WRC to get any future TV-deals at all.

Why had wrc.com stopped updating news?

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Originally Posted by Iskald

Eurosport will be able to cover the events (i.e. produce the programmes), but FIA must honour running contracts with a number of TV channels across the globe. As an example, in the Scandinavian countries Viasat has a contract with North One with rights to broadcast the WRC. The contract was originally for three years 2010-2012. Viasat lawyers are now studying the contracts, and there is no doubt that Viasat considers the contract to be valid also for 2012. But FIA has so far not been able to confirm that Viasat will receive the programmes as contracted, and Viasat does not know two days before the rally starts wether they will get the programmes or not. If FIA choses to break excisting and running contracts (with a number of channels) and solely broadcast everything on Eurosport, it will put FIA in a very difficult position re. future negotiations and possible deals. If the TV-channels suspect that they can not trust FIA, it will be very challenging for WRC to get any future TV-deals at all.

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I hope to see the rallys again on Viasat Motor TV.

The WRC is in a crisis now, with no TV coverage on the main channels in the UK, and there is no new updates on wrc.com.

It is going to be very hard to find results.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv-eVhHQlUg

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Originally Posted by rallyfiend

There's an interesting article in The Times of London today saying that the Manufacturers, the Teams and associated stakeholders are vehemently opposed the any deal with Eurosport. This they feel will permanently relegate it to subscription TV across most of the world. The loss of a potential ITV4 deal being an example I gues of what will likely happen across many territories in the World.
Why would any terrestrial broadcaster buy something that is already on Eurosport that also covers their territory.

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Didn't you just ask and answer the question?

I really don't see a problem here. If we take a country where Eurosport is free-to-air, then it is free. If Eurosport is on pay tv, then a free to air broadcaster may still be interested.

This still has to be progress over what we had last year. Even the Rally GB powerstage got significantly less viewers in the UK than the Cyprus live Eurosport coverage last year.

People asking about WRC.COM, this site was owned and run by the previous rightsholders who had their contract terminated, therefore it is pretty unlikely you will see anything new on there. But there is no reason to panic, live times will be available online, rally radio will hopefully still be there...

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Originally Posted by Langdale Forest

Why had wrc.com stopped updating news?

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Because the company that ran it went bust.

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Originally Posted by Langdale Forest

The WRC is in a crisis now, with no TV coverage on the main channels in the UK, and there is no new updates on wrc.com.

It is going to be very hard to find results.

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Results maybe like in the old days, after the weekend in a newspaper. :D

There will be media people who directly interact with their website via all the modern features.

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Originally Posted by RS

Didn't you just ask and answer the question?

I really don't see a problem here. If we take a country where Eurosport is free-to-air, then it is free. If Eurosport is on pay tv, then a free to air broadcaster may still be interested.

This still has to be progress over what we had last year. Even the Rally GB powerstage got significantly less viewers in the UK than the Cyprus live Eurosport coverage last year.

People asking about WRC.COM, this site was owned and run by the previous rightsholders who had their contract terminated, therefore it is pretty unlikely you will see anything new on there. But there is no reason to panic, live times will be available online, rally radio will hopefully still be there...

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Yes, but is it a good thing for our sport for it to be broadcast solely on a sports channel (a pan-European one) rather than on individual channels in each territory?
Or more precisely, to go backwards to that position.
It can quickly become the sort of sport whereby you can find it if you know where it is, but are unlikely to stumble on it and find new fans.

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Originally Posted by Mark

Because the company that ran it went bust.

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could we assume the same for GPweek also?

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Originally Posted by Francis44

Last night I saw Eurosport advertising their Monte Carlo coverage, begins Wednesday at 23.00.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv-eVhHQlUg

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:D

was the advert on Eurosport UK? I can't find it in the schedule yet.

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Originally Posted by whereschris

was the advert on Eurosport UK? I can't find it in the schedule yet.

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It is there, I programmed it into my Sky Box this morning. Starting 10pm Wednesday.

That was yesterday on Eurosport International... sry for the vid, it's done with my camera :D

Full Eurosport International list (British Eurosport same according to Digiguide)

Times in GMT

Wednesday 22.00
Thursday 23.00
Friday 22.00
Saturday 23.00
Sunday 23.00

All 30 minutes.

Weird. I keep looking on Virgin and it's not listed.

Listed on my ntl here in Ireland

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Weird. I keep looking on Virgin and it's not listed.

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It was listed yesterday on virgin media on eurosport and motorstv

That's really odd. I'm looking now and there is nothing. I live in the Midlands. Not sure if there are regional variations

that is strange. its listed here Consumer Site
listings where for VM wales

I've been saying it for years but every type of media coverage we need can be found online. We have instant timing, forums like this, rally radio, apps, YouTube videos, people Tweeting instant pictures. Sure it is nice to sit down in front of the TV with a coffee or a beer and watch the review show but if you want instant information then online is the place to be.

We will be trying something new over at my website for 2012 which I hope will develop as the championship goes on.

Having said all of that, the WRC does unfortunately need a promoter / rights holder with some money who can bankroll the championship and it is unlikely an online provider will be able to do that. Would the FIA even let an online media company buy the rights or are they old and stuck in their ways?

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Originally Posted by J4MES

We will be trying something new over at my website for 2012 which I hope will develop as the championship goes on.

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if not secret, then what's your website? :D

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Originally Posted by J4MES

I've been saying it for years but every type of media coverage we need can be found online. We have instant timing, forums like this, rally radio, apps, YouTube videos, people Tweeting instant pictures. Sure it is nice to sit down in front of the TV with a coffee or a beer and watch the review show but if you want instant information then online is the place to be.

We will be trying something new over at my website for 2012 which I hope will develop as the championship goes on.

Having said all of that, the WRC does unfortunately need a promoter / rights holder with some money who can bankroll the championship and it is unlikely an online provider will be able to do that. Would the FIA even let an online media company buy the rights or are they old and stuck in their ways?

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Living in the States, that's how I keep up, anyway, haha. Love the radio broadcasts.

First post, woot!

I am uncertain if ONE HD in Australia will be broadcasting the WRC this year... or from this week... Eurosport in Australia/Asia will be showing the WRC.

Australian Eurosport (GMT +11)

19th Thursday 10.30 (Day 1 - 3 times a day)
20th Friday 10.00 (Day 2 x3)
21st Saturday 09.00 (Day 3 x3)
22nd Sunday 10.00 (Day 4 x3)
23rd Monday 10.00 (Shown ONLY once!)

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if not secret, then what's your website? :D

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There is a link in my signature.

I really hope Eurosport can do the same for the WRC as they did with the IRC but I fear it will be to the detriment of one or the other championships, most likely the IRC which is not FIA sanctioned.