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Why would anybody in their right mind buy the first generation of any Apple product, knowing full well that if you wait a couple of months the next version will be released addressing some but not all of the shortcomings of the original?
It's cynical marketing at its worst, and unbelievably it works a treat.
Yeah, I can absolutely see the point of the iPhone, a powerful mobile computer you keep in your pocket. But you can't keep the iPad in your pocket, you'll have to put it in a bag. If you are going to do that, might as well get a laptop.
Liked your picture message on facebook. With the iPad costing at minimum £328 (in the USA) why would you get one which effectively has stranged functionality compared with a less money for a fully functional laptop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Tee hee, I thought you'd like it.
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I took this in Tesco earlier today. For the expected UK price of an iPad you could have two netbooks, which kick the Apple's backside in almost every respect. Ok they're not as sexy, and won't get Stephen Fry erect, but they completely trump the Fisher-Price offering from Jobs Inc.
Hp Slate. Looks nice, and uses Windows 7 as it's OS. Hmmmm...
http://h20435.www2.hp.com/t5/Voodoo-...B7E88FD9DD347E
That's the type of thing you need. A scaled down PC, not a scaled up phone. Why use an operating system which is locked down and you can't do much with?Quote:
Originally Posted by veeten
I think they have a enclosure that hangs around your neck. As soon as you can effectively run skype on the ipad it will revolutionize the industry again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
the ideal setup will be:
1. 32 in flatscreen
2. newest Macbook pro 17
3. ipad for travel
then if you are on extended leave you would take your macbook pro. ipad will be capable of running Apple's business app and those of you who have never used them they kick butt on microsoft junk. also there is a company Stone Design. I think they will port most of there apps over as well and the have some real good one. such as create. I am just waiting for the skype deal and then the iphone will go!!
Why wait for Apple to agree things? When you can have a general purpose machine that runs everything.
Wouldn't the same be said of Windows? It's not open source either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
The market and consumer demand will determine which apps are popular and which are not. As well, the market will determine if this device will be successful longer term... once the hype wears off. People can think of 1001 reasons why it shouldn't be successful, but all it takes is one reason (taken up by million sof people) for it to be successful.
To someone like myself, Twitter (and most of these social networking sites) is just the dumbest, silliest thing on earth. I truly don't get it. But the market has spoken and what I think doesn't matter.
I don't think you understand what Mark means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
With Windows Mobile you or I can write a program and run it on a phone
With an iPhone it needs to be approved by Apple to run on it and this invariably means that you end up paying for stuff that you can get for free elsewhere.
WTF? Wearing an iPad around your neck?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Are you serious fousto?Quote:
Originally Posted by fousto
yea try it dAniel before you knock it
No-one has asked the most critical question about the iPad...
Will it blend? That is the question.
Enjoy.
http://tiny.cc/24jy8 :D
Only if you fold it first :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Flavor Fousto... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
ROFL
Isn't it spelt flava though Dave?
Erm, maybe... :uhoh:
I don't have an iPhone/iPod Touch (yet). But as I understand it, some of the apps are free. As for writing programs, for me at least, that's a non-issue. I sometimes write G-code programs for fun and to stay in practice, but I haven't actually written any code for a compter since the early 1980's... and that was just in a Basic class that I was taking. I seriously doubt that figures into very many computer or smart phone purchase decisions. In fact, what's killing the Palm Pre right now is the fact that so few programmers are writing apps for it. I know it has its own OS, as does RIM's Blackberry. But I've just not heard of anyone (average buyers/users) speak of writing their own apps as a deal maker or breaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I dunno. But if it has a camera, I will have the next iPod Touch. There's an F1 app that I've heard is pretty good. If my company would cover at least some of the cost, I'd probably get an iPhone if/when it migrates over to Verizon.
As far as I'm aware most of the apps are free although they are vetted by Apple first before being made available. Whilst that may limit the freedom of software writers it also ensures that the software available can be checked to ensure compatibility so it doesn't cause problems with the iPhone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Still it doesn't seem to be an issue as there are still far more apps available for the iPhone than windows mobile.
Although I have an Apple for home use I refuse to buy an iPhone out of general principle. Whilst I have no problem paying a premium for a more reliable product at the point of purchase, I refuse to pay a monthly premium on top for the privilege of using that product. Although this has meant that I've had to put up with a vastly inferior product (windows mobile) I'm hoping to rectify that situation soon with an HTC running Android.
I'm still astonished by the degree of vitriol directed at Apple on this thread. As far as I'm aware we live in free economies, companies like Apple are free to spend their money R/Ding whatever product they like and we the consumer are free to buy whichever of those products take our fancy. I genuinely don't see why Apple behaving in this way should attract the degree of vitriol it has.
As for Fousto's point that you should try it before knocking it, I find that many people who have purchased Apple products like the iPhone have gone on to switching from Windows to Apple in short order... That does say a lot about the product.
When a company markets its products like they have invented electricity when in reality they are ancient, it does get onto people's nerves. Does iPad have a USB port? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
So name a company that doesn't market its products to the best of its ability?Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
Microsoft :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
lol, its not for want of trying though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Vauxhall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
Oops: I thought I was replying to another thread, but in the light of the above, it still works surprisingly well.
To be fair Microsoft are too polite. They will never achieve anything with their annoyingly sickly sweet I'm a PC ads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
Personally I loved the Seinfeld ads
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I can't imagine Steve Jobs ever doing that :)
What Apple did right, is like with iTunes, they constructed a very easy way of getting applications onto your phone. Like with most things Apple has done they aren't new, far from it, but they are easy.
e.g. Nokia Symbian phones and Microsoft Mobile phones were able to run applications for years before Apple came along. Except that it was usually a matter of downloading a file from your website, then manually transferring it onto your phone with a USB cable, then manually installing it once it got there. Easy enough for some, but then it's amazing how many people don't even know what a USB cable is...
Funny, isn't it, how when Apple announces a new OS, it's lead story on the BBC News technology section. But Symbian (which is used by far more people) doesn't warrant a mention when they do the same.
Same as "iPad users have trouble with WiFi", what a non-story! I didn't notice "N97 users have trouble with GPS" being in there...
I agree, they are very good at making things easy to use and that's commendable. My N97 mini, for example, has gadgets like no other but this machine is difficult and complex to use, obviously an engineer-driven device.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Now it becomes clear why Apple are so anti-Flash: banning it allows them a virtual monopoly on their own i-Ad advertising programme (40% of all revenue from advertisers!) without having to give any money to that nasty Google.
Honestly, if Microsoft behaved like Apple they'd be in the European Court before you could say "Open source? No thanks!"
and of course they have control over the apps so Apple will always get a cut from the apps which aren't free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
People are already destroying iPads.
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How stupid. :dozey:Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
I played with one at it blew me away.
I will wait for a couple of generations until they have added what they already know that they are going to add.
The first generations are for those who just have to have it now and for those who want to have their faces on Youtube.
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I remember when the Mazda Miata first came out and people were paying $5K-$10K over list just to get one of the first ones. The same kind of crazy behavior surrounded the Xboxes and Playstaions. I really don't understand that way of thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
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06 Apr 2010 12:49 User comments (5)
Bloomberg has reported today that listings of the Apple iPad have surged on eBay since launch this past weekend, mainly due to early adopters overseas who want the device.
At its craziest, a buyer in the UK purchased a 64GB Wi-Fi version for $5000 USD, an 800 percent premium from the U.S. retail price. The iPad goes on sale in Europe later this month.
Adds Carl Howe, analyst at the Yankee Group: "This happens with nearly any hot product. Some people buy up copies and try to sell them on EBay to make a profit. There were iPhones going for $2,000 when they first came out."
eBay says the average selling price for an iPad heading into launch was $777 USD.
Sorry Daniel, looks like that Microsoft tablet won't see the light of day after all.... http://gizmodo.com/5527442/
Doh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewmcm
Probably for the best: MS don't exactly have a great track record of making hardware (Xbox excluded). They're better off sticking to writing the OS for inclusion by other manufacturers, although with the rise of open source like Android they risk pricing themselves out of the market.
I thought it would be fun to revisit this thread since iPad shipments are well beating early analysts' estimates. And then there was this bit of news: yesterday Apple took the crown from Microsoft as the most valuable technology company in the world (by market capitalization).
Apple worth more than MicrosoftQuote:
It was the day a million iPads trumped a billion PCs.
On Wednesday, Apple passed Microsoft to become the world's most valuable technology company based on market capitalization.
While the two may end up trading positions for weeks and months to come, the unseating of the Redmond software giant captures the rise of consumer gadgets over workhorse corporate software.
Microsoft continually has dismissed Apple for its single-digit percentage of the PC market. With the launch of the iPod, iPhone and iPad, however, the Cupertino, Calif.-based company has continually dazzled Wall Street traders with the new, new thing.
Traders appear somewhat bored by Windows and Office, even if the software continues to rake in billions of dollars.
As Roger Sterling said in the TV show "Mad Men" about ad accounts, "Old business is just old business."
Microsoft stock fell 4 percent Wednesday to close at $25.01, which figures out to a market capitalization of $219.1 billion. Apple stock fell 0.5 percent to close at $244.11, giving the company a market capitalization of $222.1 billion.
Not everyone is jumping on the Apple bandwagon
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/05/27/nb...#ixzz0pANk2sLQQuote:
Major media companies, including Time Warner and NBC Universal, have indicated that they will not change their online videos to the modern HTML5 format, which is compatible with Apple’s iPad.
Currently, those companies’ Web sites use the competing Adobe Flash plugin to display video content like television shows and movies. Apple does not allow Flash to run in its mobile Web browsers, meaning that iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad users cannot access Flash video content.
I do hope they figure that issue out soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Both Macs and Windows can play both windows media and apple's Quick Time files by just downloading the free plug ins.
I would love to be able to use flash videos on my Mac website programs and watch flash file on my iPhone.
All we have to do is wait and see . . . . .
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