Danica Closer to AGR deal

And this just in from ESPN:

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HAMPTON, Ga. -- Danica Patrick will "all but certainly" be in NASCAR in 2010, but won't give up Indy car racing and will limit next year's activity to the Nationwide Series and Trucks, according to a source very close to the situation.

Tony Stewart is the "star candidate" to be her partner and mentor in NASCAR, the source said, adding that Patrick's recent visits to Stewart-Haas Racing were much more than social -- that she and Stewart were discussing a deal, and are close to one.

"I can pretty much guarantee at some point she's going to be over here," Stewart told reporters Saturday at Atlanta Motor Speedway, meaning NASCAR in general and hinting at something the source confirmed and clarified.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar...ory?id=4449524

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

PS...it is about time serious race fans of the IRL realize we need her marketability and ability to draw in non-race fans as a known name. WE all know her talents are limited, and while she can put the pedal down on ovals when the setup is right, and she isn't a menace to her competitors; she is a competant driver, nothing more. To spend 10 posts arguing about her poles and accomplishments just reinforced the fact she is just ok. That said, she is more valuable to us than she is to NASCAR, and whether she likes it or not, she hasn't a prayer in NASCAR.

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The fact there are so many posts about her is a result of the fact media plays her hype up to mid-level fans and those that doen't know any different. And we real race fans with knowledge realize she's a joke. As I said before, when she came to RLR, I truly wanted her to succeed and be the real deal. Sadly she's just a side show and to me it is inexplicable as to how a mid to back pack driver can continue to get this much exposure...I guess I just add to it so maybe I'm the entire reason she's even still in a ride.

Frankly, she has been good for fans/exposure in the past but what are "we" really getting out of her? As stated, she doesn't fill up the stands, she doesn't improve the TV ratings, and the followers she does have really don't amount to much worth anyway. If a fan has nothing to contribute except worship of a joke of a driver then said person isn't really a fan in my opinion. I'm telling everybody...she's Ed Carpenter in a chick suit!! (Except I must say I think Ed can outdrive her on ovals...he didn't lift 1 time in Kentucky and Danica would NEVER have raced that close for any lenght of time).

Oh, and I'm glad to see she's been talked into reality by doing some developmental series to test NASCAR. If she gets a big team to back her, she'll qualify but she won't race for squat. Her NASCAR experiment will be over faster than you can possibly imagine. With all that talent she relys on in Indycars, how will her performances decline....especially now that she's not in a contract year? Lets be real...if she were to start winning races by some strange change of course, you can bet it'll be she's getting something the rest aren't with the IRL's hopes being if she's winning she's staying.

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Originally Posted by TURN3

Sadly she's just a side show and to me it is inexplicable as to how a mid to back pack driver can continue to get this much exposure...

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Because she exposed her butt-crack...

Mark in Oshawa's post is rather sensitive I should say, although I hope irl lose her ASAP simply because I feel what irl needs now really is a really dire situation where those people in the management can actually start thinking of what to do to make this series better to get out of this ongoing decade long slow slide. And also for the good of the long term, irl shouldn't rely on a mid pack female driver with her explicit sexual exposure to attract attentions, that's not what motorsport essentially is and will lead irl nowhere in the long run.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78364

Last evening I sat and watched both the Nationwide race and the NASCAR Truck race on TV. As I sat there, I tried to picture DP racing in either. She will not run up close and personal on the track with other drivers in the IRL, she gets nervous if anyone runs close to her and usually backs out, she lacks that last 1% of total mental commitment, and this is in the IRL with 20-24 cars and the "room" to spread out. NASCAR Truck qualifies 36, and Nationwide qualifies 43. There's no room, or even potential, for any kind of success for her kind of racing in either tier, let alone Cup. IF she really plans, seriously, to try to make a move to Nationwide, I'm afraid she will be handed her butt in a bag if/when she tries NASCAR. Unfortunately, she will be in the wall so fast it would be a true shame. And there'd be no hissies either - those guys would just laugh in her face. I'm also willing to bet she will not actually appear in a Nationwide race in 2010. She'll do testing for someone, actual results of said testing will not be made public (just like the last time this happened before Atlantics), and after that the whole idea will quietly fade.

When I think about this whole "Danica to NASCAR" thing, I think about all the people who are, or who have been, there, and their carefully worded public statements about Danica in NASCAR. Chip advised her to stay in IRL. Both Dario and JP advised her to stay in the IRL and to think very, very carefully about the NASCAR idea, Penske suggested she stay in the IRL, Sam Hornish stated that the transition is very, very hard, and takes more than one year and a lot of dedication, etc. (If you want links, google them yourself.) It seems like she's going down a list of all these people who can give her rock-solid advice, until she finds one who says what she wants to hear. I know grade-school kids who are more mature than that.

Whatever. She'll do whatever IMG tells her to do, because she really is all about the money. Regardless of what she tells Tony Stewart. If he believes she has that much dedication to go to NASCAR, when she hasn't shown that kind of dedication for ANY other kind of racing she's ever been in, well, shame on Tony. I thought he was smarter than that.

OMG! To prove my previous point in this post, even if you don't use Twitter you can go so a search for @DanicaPatrick. Apparently her "fans" are reading the reports on this wonderful Sunday morning and the tweets prove beyond a reasonable doubt exactly what I've said about the fans she brings being incompetent. Indycar doesn't need the sideshow at the 3 ring circus attention...it needs real fans, real drivers, real racing, real technology, etc. It doesn't need attn from Danica like WWF or WWE. Everybody knows that stuff isn't real, right?

1. I don't think the IRL needs Danica to survive. The series is struggling right now and it has much bigger issues to deal with than, as another poster said, a well known female driver staying or leaving. Does she add a bit to the fanbase? Yes, I'd say the at-track attendance (often casual fans) is boosted a bit by her. But tv ratings won't be affected one-bit, and in the big picture, I don't think it will make all that much difference. 2. I do not think it's entirely fair to speculate how well she will do in NASCAR. Driving an Indy car close to another driver is a lot different than driving a stock car close. If you touch in an Indy car you're toast, if you touch in a stock car, you can often times get away with it. She's aware of this, and I think she'll be less cautious in a stock car. I also think the idea that she'll have difficulty "steering" a stock car is ridiculous, of course they have power steering, unlike Indy cars. Yes, there's a lot of reasons why she might not do well in stock cars, the main one being that she has little to NO experience in them. That's the biggest issue, not her size, her gender, or her driving style in the IRL. I expect her to get top equipment in nwide/trucks in 2010 and to probably just be running laps near the back most of the season. By the time 2011 rolls around and she expects to start running Cup, I think then we'll see whether she's a Hornish/Montoya or comes crawling back to Indycar... My expectations are not high, but I do think it will be interesting to watch.

Since it sounds like The Danica is just dipping her toe in the water, here's where I am. If she actually starts a NASCAR or ARCA race by Daytona, I'll become NASCAR_Warrior for a month. If she starts a stock car race (ANY stock car race) and finishes in the Top 10, where there are at least 25 starters, I'll become NASCAR_Warrior for 3 months. If at anytime during 2010 she starts a NASCAR Sprint Cup race, without having to rely on owner points, I'll be NASCAR_Warrior from that point through the end of the season. If she goes full time Cup by 2011, I will become NASCAR_Warrior for the entire season.

And... if Danica wins a stock car race, ANY stock car race, I'll permanently become NASCAR_Warrior on here. I figure there's better odds that I'll go to Vegas next month with $50 in my wallet and I'll leave with $1 million in my pocket and Salma Hayek on my arm.

Folks here should look at the upside of this. The Truck series gets about 400% higher ratings than the IRL. The Nationwide Series gets about 700% higher ratings than the IRL (on Versus). Since The Danica seems to want to keep her seat warm in the IRL for awhile, maybe some of the fans in those other series might start watching some IRL races.

What will be interesting to watch is how fast THE DANICA brand is history once she's exposed as a complete talentless failure. That can be hidden in the IRL on ovals with cars glued to the ground and less than 10 cars that are somewhat competitive. It has nothing to do with weight or strenght or anything like that like some people have speculated...she'll be fine there, that isn't the problem. The problem is she's not a good race car driver. There isn't much to show an argument to the contrary.

I agree, NASCAR is going to show us her real abilities (or lack thereof) as a driver. I do not think it's fair to give her a couple races and make a decision there. But her ability to adapt to these cars I think will say a lot about her talent as a racer. Even Franchitti had a pole in Nationwide last year and had some decent runs in nationwide and arca. But his time there was considered a failure. Danica will probably get more time in the cars than Dario thanks to her sponsors, but at a certain point next season if she's not running or qualifying mid pack with top equipment, people are going to question her decision. And that can't be good for the brand. I suppose it's a risk she's willing to take, and she's never lacked for a healthy ego.

I'll also add that while I don't think her absence from the IRL will effect ratings all that much, I DO think it will have a significant effect on the IRL's ability to get a title sponsor. She's the face for a big affiliate sponsor, Peak Antifreeze, and my guess is that a "star" leaving the series will not look good in IRL marketing/sponsorship meetings. She adds a lot of perceived value to the series, even if it's more perception than reality.

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Originally Posted by NickFalzone

I'll also add that while I don't think her absence from the IRL will effect ratings all that much, I DO think it will have a significant effect on the IRL's ability to get a title sponsor. She's the face for a big affiliate sponsor, Peak Antifreeze, and my guess is that a "star" leaving the series will not look good in IRL marketing/sponsorship meetings. She adds a lot of perceived value to the series, even if it's more perception than reality.

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I don't doubt that there will be some fallout from some sponsors if she were to leave Indycar all together, but only for those certain sponsors that are attached to her and only for a short time (Peak, Godaddy, etc.). I think the point here was made (to which I agree) that maybe Indycar needs to be building it's own brand and not trying to piggy back on a mid to back of pack driver that wouldn't even be in racing if it weren't for doing some photo shoots. Seriously, has anybody ever considered that DanicaMania has really sort of stalled out? By stalled out I don't mean that it is dead but that it hasn't continued to grow at exponetial pace like it once did when she was a rookie at RLR. The curve has flattened way out and because Indycar counted on it I think it has limited the growth of the bigger picture for several years.

The fact her popularity has bascially reached it's peak is obviously exactly why she's considering NASCAR (aka $$$). Everybody needs to face it, she's popular for surpassing gender barriers, not for being good and it is arguable at best that she's even average. She's never going to be good at any form of racing so when the welcome has worn out the smart business thing to do would be to break the next barrier. Problem is...she's running out of barriers. After her failure in NASCAR with Hendrick level equipment, where too next? Can't do NHRA sweeheart, Shirley already did that and Ashley would stomp on you like asphalt under your own feet after loosing yet again.

This is a silly argument. Lyn St. James said itg best once: "The car doesn't know whether it's a guy or a gal driving it."

bye by and don't come back, you can't drive so take it where the races are fixed and you don't have too.

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Originally Posted by indycool

This is a silly argument. Lyn St. James said itg best once: "The car doesn't know whether it's a guy or a gal driving it."

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And that's one of the few things said by the mystery woman known as "Lyn St. James" that I ever agreed with. The other being, both of us were fans of McMillan and Wife back in the 70's... and I thought Susan Saint James was really cute too. :D

So to piggyback on Lyn's statement, why is Danica so popular? Well... uh... ;) But the rubber will be a meetin' the road soon enough.

Sincerely,

NASCAR_Warrior. :s mokin:

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Originally Posted by indycool

This is a silly argument. Lyn St. James said itg best once: "The car doesn't know whether it's a guy or a gal driving it."

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Perhaps you can show me what I missed, but I don't think this thread has focused on her gender as the issue at all.

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Originally Posted by grungex

Perhaps you can show me what I missed, but I don't think this thread has focused on her gender as the issue at all.

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Yeah grungy, what did we miss. This has nothing to do with gender other than the fact Danica happens to be a girl and one that can't drive.

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Originally Posted by grungex

Perhaps you can show me what I missed, but I don't think this thread has focused on her gender as the issue at all.

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some how, the remark has to come into play, just like how race has to come into play with others. I don't believe anyone here has made any sexist comments toward Danica in this thread.

Read the thread. Plenty of references to her being a her. If it was an E.J. Viso or Justin Wilson or Vitor Meira or Dan Wheldon or someone else like them, there would be no multi-page discussion.

well to be fair, none of those guys go bragging about how great they are neither or their "The Brand" is keeping the IRL afloat. what she needs to do is get off her head out of the clouds and come back to reality. I honestly don't care if she races or not, its her up-tight attitude that gets the people annoyed, she needs to take lessons from Sarah if she has to. but she can't keep saying how great she is (although the media does alot as well as making it worse to real race fans).

should she be in Nascar, absolutely not, she does not have enough talent to compete there, shes better off in the IRL for her career, the Nascar drivers will have zero patience for her and her blocking, and the Cup guys are not afraid to use the bumper at all except maybe for Martin

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Originally Posted by indycool

Read the thread. Plenty of references to her being a her. If it was an E.J. Viso or Justin Wilson or Vitor Meira or Dan Wheldon or someone else like them, there would be no multi-page discussion.

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I hope this isn't the part of the thread where a few people that realize they can't make a case to support her go off on some tangent. It hasn't been suggested by me or any recent posts in this thread (to my recollection) that she's a worthless piece of crap driver due to her gender. Frankly, it doesn't matter in terms of performance and results. In other words, I agree with Lyn St. James...the car doesn't know who/what is driving.

If somebody wants to start arguing about this being a multi-page post becasue she's a female then I would argue if she weren't female she wouldn't be racing cars professionally. She doesn't have a pedigree like EJ, Justin, Vitor, or Dan. She only ever got a break by forging her resume and doing photo shoots.

To be clear, for me, the bottom line is she's a mid to back of pack driver with equipment superior to all but Penske & Ganassi. The attention she gets for that is what disgusts me...not that she's female

I guess the only real issue I have with this, as an IRL (and sometime NASCAR) fan, is the way she's going about this in the media and with the supposed scheduling. Unlike Franchitti or Hornish or Montoya, who each won the 500 and the series championship (along with a load of races) Danica can't really say "I've done all you can do in Indycar and I want to try a different kind of racecar". Granted, I didn't totally believe them at the time, but it was an adequate explanation. In contrast, everything Danica is doing here, even down to the split of her doing some IRL and some NASCAR events next season, suggests that the IRL is to her at best a stepping stone and at worst an inferior racing that she wants to get away from asap. Which is not to say that I don't understand where she's coming from, but on the other hand belittingling the series that grew you into a huge moneymaking brand is not that cool. I think of the way Penske/Hornish handled it in a very classy way behind the scenes, with a few practice stock car events at the end of the season, Franchitti also kept it quiet till the end of the season, compared to Danica's weekly and even daily pronouncements about her desire to drive stock cars (and little mention of her desire to drive indy cars) then a schedule that basically says "i'll stick around in indycar to get a payday while mixing in a full schedule of the real racing I want to do". That just rubs me the wrong way.

Most of those guys have said they wanted to try stock cars some time. Montoya, Hornish and Allmendinger are over there now. Franchitti came back. Sneva, Rutherford (although he won a NASCAR race at Atlanta) and Carter had a turn at NASCAR and came back. Foyt, Andretti and Hurtubise all did well in their brief NASCAR stints -- I believe Foyt won seven times, including Daytona. Cale Yarborough, Lee Roy Yarbrough, Bobby Allison and Donnie Allison tried Indy cars and Donnie was the only one who showed well. Paul Goldsmith did 'em both and ran pretty much top 10 in both but didn't win too many.

If a media guy asks Danica about it, what is she supposed to say? "No, I never want to do that." She's apparently smart enough to not burn bridges anywhere. And the media guys are asking and reporting this and it triggers these threads.

I dont agree with that. The media was on Hornish and Franchitti from mid-season on about NASCAR and they just changed topics, wouldn't discuss it. They also weren't publicly going to NASCAR race shops and signing autographs for fans or having several owners publicly make statements about their discussions. They kept all that behind the scenes, and she could have as well. She's played one side against the other all season, for I guess what the ultimate goal was a big 1-year IRL contract for 2010 along with a strong NASCAR contract that will allow her top equipment and to do races throughout the year in between the IRL schedule. She's always wanted to do both IMO to keep the IRL as a safety net, and there's been a lot of posturing to get that.

There are some interesting issues at play here for Danica if you step back from the hype and mystique of the Danica "brand".

The only series where Danica has had any real success is the IRL. Yet by all accounts the only offer she has for next year is a 1 year deal with AGR. Just a few weeks ago, she was saying she wanted to stay in the IRL and expected to sign with AGR. Now suddenly she is exploring other possibilities in NASCAR.

What changed? Was the AGR offer well below what she (or IMG) thinks she is worth and suddenly she is looking at NASCAR for the pot of gold?

If she can't get a good deal in the IRL where people know her and her racing talent, what does that say about her real value to the racing community?

When the people in the IRL who have raced with her and know the realities of NASCAR are saying she should stay in the IRL (Franchitti, Ganassi, even Hornish), what do they know that the media shills don't know?

Why do almost everyone who have worked with her remain quiet about Danica? You don't hear anything from Rahal, or Buddy Rice, or even Kyle Moyer and Kim Green. They seem to have nothing to say about her. Why?

The very few times she tried other non-open wheel series such as sports cars (GT and Grand-Am), her results went from underwhelming (Grand-Am) to dismal (GT). What does that say about her ability to adapt and race other types of vehicles?

Why did her test of a Busch car in 2003 go nowhere? She was supposed to have a second test, but it was canceled (due to a scheduling conflict according to her media hacks).

Is it possible her racing future may not be nearly as bright as her starry eyed fans think? Has the clock run out on her 15 minutes of fame? Are teams now looking for results instead of just a pretty face?

Perhaps a real gauge of her racing value comes from a Google search, where almost the whole first page consists of her photo shoots and celebrity appearances, not racing results. She has gone from a racer who models to a model who races. And as a model, she isn't that dazzling.

In the end, racing is still a performance based industry. Even media darlings like Dale Jr, need results to keep the fan base. Danica came in with lots of potential, but her first year (2005) was arguably her best year. Since then, she hasn't done as well and certainly hasn't improved much, if at all.

With Danica, it is very hard to separate the real from the imagined. IHMO, at some point she has to prove she can race and race hard or her career may be a lot shorter than some think.

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Originally Posted by indycool

Read the thread. Plenty of references to her being a her. If it was an E.J. Viso or Justin Wilson or Vitor Meira or Dan Wheldon or someone else like them, there would be no multi-page discussion.

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Pretty hard to refer to a female without saying her. :rolleyes:

You still haven't supported your statement.

Read post #142.

Remember, it's the silly season where drivers and car owners and sponsors are finding out all their options and yes, playing one another off each other for the best deal, one way or the other. Kanaan almost signed with Ganassi last year and don't you think his guys were playing with both Ganassi and AGR? IMG is a very prominent agency and has done this with golfers and tennis players and b aseball and football players. They're going to represent an auto racing client the same way.

In about 10 years, I can imagine Danica Patrick, Anna Kournikova and Michelle Wie sitting at a table together, somewhere in West Palm Beach. And one of them (doesn't matter which one) looks at the other two and says, "Can you believe what a great frickin' country this is?! Only in America could one accomplish as little as the three of us have and be as rich as we are. A toast to mediocrity... and having nice legs!" :beer:

She's at the top of the IRL in terms of popularity, and she hasn't gotten there on merit. She knows that (somewhere deep down). And so do the people at IMG. I might hate the game, but I don't hate the playa (I don't like her, but I don't hate her). And one thing I have to give Danica credit for: she's playing the game damn well!

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Originally Posted by indycool

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How does that support your accusations of sexism?

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

In about 10 years, I can imagine Danica Patrick, Anna Kournikova and Michelle Wie sitting at a table together, somewhere in West Palm Beach. And one of them (doesn't matter which one) looks at the other two and says, "Can you believe what a great frickin' country this is?! Only in America could one accomplish as little as the three of us have and be as rich as we are. A toast to mediocrity... and having nice legs!" :beer:

She's at the top of the IRL in terms of popularity, and she hasn't gotten there on merit. She knows that (somewhere deep down). And so do the people at IMG. I might hate the game, but I don't hate the playa (I don't like her, but I don't hate her). And one thing I have to give Danica credit for: she's playing the game damn well!

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I respectfully disagree with your opinion that she is playing the game well. I think she's playing it like a spoiled brat that her parents never taught her proper values. Plenty of reference here as to how true professionals "play the game".

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Originally Posted by indycool

Read post #142.

Remember, it's the silly season where drivers and car owners and sponsors are finding out all their options and yes, playing one another off each other for the best deal, one way or the other. Kanaan almost signed with Ganassi last year and don't you think his guys were playing with both Ganassi and AGR? IMG is a very prominent agency and has done this with golfers and tennis players and b aseball and football players. They're going to represent an auto racing client the same way.

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As AJ would say, that is quite true. But the question is, will IMG's tactics work? IHMO, they only work if there is a bidding war for an athlete and that just doesn't seem true in this case.

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Originally Posted by TURN3

I respectfully disagree with your opinion that she is playing the game well. I think she's playing it like a spoiled brat that her parents never taught her proper values. Plenty of reference here as to how true professionals "play the game".

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That depends an what game you are playing. She has certainly played the personal promotion game better than almost any athlete in recent times. As for her playing the racing game or acting like a professional, those are different stories.

Grungex, post me back when there's an eight-page thread on the pros and cons of E.J. Viso.

No, it is up to you to prove your point, else admit you're projecting your own biases onto this thread.

Indycool, maybe not Viso, but if Marco was boasting about his interest in going to NASCAR next season and visting Stewart Haas regularly, I think we'd probably be having a similar thread.

BTW, Atlanta Motor Speedway tonight, 2 cautions so far, both caused by Hornish sliding into the infield.

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Originally Posted by NickFalzone

BTW, Atlanta Motor Speedway tonight, 2 cautions so far, both caused by Hornish sliding into the infield.

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What was the stat last year? Sam Hornish Jr. had something like 12 more spins than any other driver in 2008?

My "biases?" I don't know what "biases" I'm supposed to have. I just don't thonk the fifth-place driver in points deserves all this lovin' and hatin' for eight pages on this board. .

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Originally Posted by beachbum

That depends an what game you are playing. She has certainly played the personal promotion game better than almost any athlete in recent times. As for her playing the racing game or acting like a professional, those are different stories.

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Bingo! That's why I put her at the table with Anna Kournikova and Michelle Wie. While Michelle is still a question mark, thus far, she has a lot more in common with Anna and Danica than she does, say... Tiger Woods.

What did Danica talk about when the NASCAR rumors started flying last year? How much she would impact ratings. As far as I know, she's never said a word about wanting to win the Daytona 500, the Coke 600 or the Brickyard 400. Danica's not playing the same game as Michael Schumacher or Ayrton Senna did: winning at all costs and winning is everything. Danica wants to live the glamorous life. Her game is $. That's why I said one can hate the game, but I really can't hate the player (of that game). She is what she is, she does what she does. She's not an idiot. At some level, she must know that she's not getting ALL this attention based on her merits as a racing car driver. What merits as a racing car driver? Hell, (finally) being fifth place in the points is hardly on par with winning the Indy 500 or the season championship two years in a row. People are probably going to faint if Danica even wins another race. I think she knows what her true abilities are. So why play a losing game? Why not play a game she can obviously win?

As long as she can make NASCAR money, I don't think she's going to cry herself to sleep over barely qualifying and NEVER winning a NASCAR race (in any division). Just my 2 cents.

Sincerely,

NASCAR_Warrior :D

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

Since it sounds like The Danica is just dipping her toe in the water, here's where I am. If she actually starts a NASCAR or ARCA race by Daytona, I'll become NASCAR_Warrior for a month. If she starts a stock car race (ANY stock car race) and finishes in the Top 10, where there are at least 25 starters, I'll become NASCAR_Warrior for 3 months. If at anytime during 2010 she starts a NASCAR Sprint Cup race, without having to rely on owner points, I'll be NASCAR_Warrior from that point through the end of the season. If she goes full time Cup by 2011, I will become NASCAR_Warrior for the entire season.

And... if Danica wins a stock car race, ANY stock car race, I'll permanently become NASCAR_Warrior on here. I figure there's better odds that I'll go to Vegas next month with $50 in my wallet and I'll leave with $1 million in my pocket and Salma Hayek on my arm.

Folks here should look at the upside of this. The Truck series gets about 400% higher ratings than the IRL. The Nationwide Series gets about 700% higher ratings than the IRL (on Versus). Since The Danica seems to want to keep her seat warm in the IRL for awhile, maybe some of the fans in those other series might start watching some IRL races.

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DanicaFan mode on:
How long will you call yourself NASCAR_Warrior when Danica wins a Nascar event? :p

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Originally Posted by DBell

DanicaFan mode on:
How long will you call yourself NASCAR_Warrior when Danica wins a Nascar event? :p

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When? Uh... IF The Danica ever wins a Truck series, Nationwide Series or Sprint Cup Series race: I will forever more be known as NASCAR_Warrior. :D