You know where you can stick your can opener now :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
P.S haha
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You know where you can stick your can opener now :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
P.S haha
I noticed no sponsoring on Atkinson cars. He is paying the Rally Ireland entry all form the kick out of Subaru money? And after sunday he is left without money and rallies?
You would hope that's not the end of him. I must admit Chris spoilt it by going off yesterday but his pace today has shown that he really is a competitive driver given a proper car.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
And it's obvious that there is more to come from Chris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
We've never seen him in a proper car until this weekend. You are right there has to be more to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finni
Yes show me the way my master... http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...s/rolleyes.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Oh wait no need, we can already see your face.
Don't worry Chris will show you the way :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
Chris himself was speaking about Greece and Australia today...Quote:
Originally Posted by Finni
Source?Quote:
Originally Posted by FabiaFan
You were saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
He said this after SS14 (P2) to the radio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finni
Go Atko :bounce:
Just not any higher than 4th as you'll stuff my pickem' up.... :p :
He can go as high as he wants since i picked him as winner in front of Loeb haha a little bit of crazy but anyway hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by mjh
Atko showed some pace in some stages, but looked a bit uncomfortable with the car generally as the mistakes showed. Even if Chris doesn't get more WRC opportunities in '09, I hope he can rejoin the series in 2010 at the wheel of a potential new manufacturer (as we expect more of them to join) and really have a go at the highest placings.
I don't expect new manufacturers to come before 2011. It's too late now and still no rules exist...
Oh ye, the way to go offroad while fighting against H.Solberg. On tarmac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
However one judges Chris showed in his first Citroen-rally more tarmac pace than Gigi in the whole season with Ford.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
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I guess Chris' problem today was caused rather due to lack of attack than pace; he was ordered to finnish.
Jens is right that there was uncomfortability in Chris side but I guess it was combination of high pressures (only rally to show his worth for the rest of the year) and hazard circumstannces combined with the new car. Ogier's modest drive hints that adapting of C4 was quite a challenge in those conditions.
As a whole I am not overly moved by Chris performance. It's obvious that he didin't yet show his peak-pace. Obviously he would close somewhere around to Sordo as there was not too much difference in saturday. But that was already obvious as Chris has driven stage wins with the crap car and beated P. Solberg in some asphalt rallies.
Last year with bad Subaru car on podium.. This year fifth behind H.Solberg..
All that for 185k €.. Not worth..
I suppose someone such as yourself will immediately get used to a new car, that handles completely different to your own in a matter of hours? Gimme a break mate... He's only barely tested the car before. Of course he's still faster in an impreza, cause he knows how (no matter how bad) that thing handles! You can't go flat out in a car you don't know. That's why he's had a few spins. He just doesn't know yet how to react when that car starts acting up. You learn by trial and error, which means driving the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Now how on earth is he supposed to learn if he doesn't rent a car?
Money well spent. The end.
you can add "and on tarmarc" after H.Solberg and it's even more pointlessQuote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Yep. Mistakes, but Atkinson showed he was one of the fastest out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Englandsfahrer
Which is more than can be said for other drivers who had Citroens at their disposal over the years.
lol ! And what have we seen of Gigi on tarmac in a Ford ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Finni
Pretty much like Chris, he got his first rally ever with the new car on tarmac (Monte) with no testing at all (Chris tested a little bit), no powersteering for some stages and still he got a 6th place with the car all in one piece ^^
Then in Germany the unfortunate crash (not his blame) ... this is not the Chris vs Gigi battle, I have just said that I am myself a fan of Atko, and also explained early in this thread what I would expect from him (I quote my post below).
But I've started to hear "he will crush everybody MAYBE except Loeb" that seemed a little bit exaggerated. And if you read my predictions, I got it perfectly :P
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Originally Posted by Helstar on 30th Dec 08
You should see a head doctor about those voices in your head. No one has said that......Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
Citroen Team Manager Olivier Quesnel is happy by Irish performances of Atkinson and he says that he would likes to keep him in the team for the rest of season after the Rally de Norway. A meeting is already programmed. Wait and see...
http://www.leblogauto.com/2009/02/ch...z-citroen.html
That whould be so good, but i wont believe it untill it really happens... :P
We saw some really impressive times by Atkinson in Ireland, ok Loeb was maybe not pushing 100 % but anyway, Atkinsons times were really good.
If this guy are to have a go in the Citroen for the rest of the season, i know who i will cheer on in 2009!
Mr Quesnel probably meant: GIVEEE MEEE ALLLLL YOUUUU GOTTTT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by René
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk...ris%20Atkinson
"The boys working on my car impressed me - especially on Friday night when they brought it back to life after we smashed into the electricity pylon. It was back to 100 per cent for Saturday and I'm sure they're not so used to cars coming back to service looking the way mine did!"
Not since the Duval days :rotflmao:
Olivier Quesnel, teamleader of Citroën Racing, can not help Atkinson and refers to its limited budget. „I would gladly continue with him and would be glad, if he finds a solution.
But I have only determined budget of Citroen and have unfortunately no money for three cars.
I'm sorry for him, but he must procure money, if he wants to remain with us. If he succeeds to it, I would be very gladly over it. :dozey:
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/d/...tko/index.html
It's a shame, but not unexpected. I think Chris will really be up against it trying to procure sponsorship for what is in all reality a European based sport. He won't get anything from Australia. The WRC gets zero coverage over here so it does sponsors no good sponsoring him.
And why would a European sponsor give him $$ when they can probably get better recognition with a European driver?
My sad prediction is that Chris will disappear from the WRC ranks, which is a real shame because I don't think he really got a chance to show what he's capable of driving for Subaru.
I hope I'm wrong.
DittoQuote:
Originally Posted by ST205GT4
I think he had the best chance to show, but at the moment it's not so easy if he dont have sponsors.Quote:
Originally Posted by ST205GT4
He is not the first and will be also not the last, it is time that he find a new challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by ST205GT4
Take a look to Gardemaister, Loix, +...+...+...+ and even new hopefuls in rallysport.
Yes it's a real pity that guys like Rautencrash and Wilslow can get drives and some one with Atko's obvious talent can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by ST205GT4
If Malcolm Wilson was acting in the best interest of FORD he would have dropped Mathew and given a seat to either Petter or Atko, imo.
Maybe if we start an email campaign to FORD it may bring results....
A bit nasty I know, but Rautencrash reminds me of a saying that I heard years ago: "he couldn't drive out of sight on a dark night!!!!"
I dont think you get any result by sending e-mails to the team bosses, almost the same effect you get when crying in a forum, but you could try to approace companies that has export from australia to europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Camelopard
I remember a while ago someone on the forum suggested a sausage sizzle to raise funds for Skoda when they were having trouble in the WRC :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
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Originally Posted by Daniel
:laugh:
Thats kinda sweet i think, hehe!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Quesnel is not going to be bullied. If he thought he was going to oust Sordo, and Citroens long term plans, he was very much mistaken.
He may be a chance for Rally Australia later in the year, who knows, maybe the organisers will chip in.
[quote="Camelopard"]Yes it's a real pity that guys like Rautencrash and Wilslow can get drives and some one with Atko's obvious talent can't.
If Malcolm Wilson was acting in the best interest of FORD he would have dropped Mathew and given a seat to either Petter or Atko, imo.
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That is rallying at the highest level, and its not a new concept, in fact the bring money theory applies in all motorsport, its just more obvious now. What gets me is the media (wrc.com) attitude of treating Matt, Conrad and all the other pay drivers as being equal, we all know if it wasnt for the size of their wallets they wouldnt make it in 'village rallies'