What a load of crap, he did win just the amount of championship he was capable to win, its good to remember there was good maybe much better guys there too driving.Quote:
Originally Posted by cut the b.s.
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What a load of crap, he did win just the amount of championship he was capable to win, its good to remember there was good maybe much better guys there too driving.Quote:
Originally Posted by cut the b.s.
It was not all about win rallys. they had FUN and love to drive! Now they keep the result from friday and just cruis on sunday. :( ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
The basic idea of rally is still the same like it has always been, to win rallies and championships.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
I think this cuts both ways though. Toivonen is considered a driving god by some but how many rallies and championships did he win?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
I do agree that what ctbs said is bs. It's because Colin was so motivated by championships that he only ever got one.
Perhaps we can have a "fun" championship for the drivers who are not good enough to ever win a rally or a championship. It's only fair you know. We can exclude Loeb for being French ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
yes true, Toivonens early death plays a role in this, resultvise he was far from the topguys from that era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
yes i support that strongly, it would bring many new supporters to the rallyracing sport ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
30 is not that early......rallywise
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Originally Posted by Daniel
I'd never expect you to agree with me Daniel, the fact is clear for those of us who were there and watching, McRae set out to win events, if he had a sniff of a win he went for it, championship winners know that sometimes you are better too settle for points. A recent example of this for those whose memories dont go back so far, or those who are losing theirs, is Dani Sordos JWRC win over Kris Meeke.
Yup. I think you can only extrapolate so much. If god forbid Loeb was to have an accident which ended his career now you could realistically say that given a good car he could have had at least a few titles more. But if the same happened in 2002 or so then you really couldn't have said that with any degree of certainty. Death always makes people greater and to be honest I don't think Colin needs anymore help to be greater. He was exciting to watch because he was fast and he was a champion. You can't expect more from a person who is just flesh and bone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi