Burma/Myanmar uprising

We wished that Beijing was never selected for the 2008 Olympics.

If the Junta extends Suu Yi house arrest, then the Junta will receive an "Iraqi style" 48 hour ultimatum to step down. It will not be Than Shwe's decision. It is Bush's decision.

Myanmar will become another Cambodia and Bosnia/Herzegovina in the circumstances of mass graves. This is why the world do not want to see. If you are a reporter or journalist from another country, you can be expelled or brand you a spy if they find out about military background. Shwe will go down.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7031171.stm

international pressure is growing, but China and Russia (surprise) continue to oppose the UN and are saying its an i"nternal issue that doesn't represent an international threat"

what a cop out, whilst technically correct it is morally inept, what better way to say "we couldn't give a stuff about anyone else, as long as its not affecting us", total cowardice, i hope the demos and pressure from the other nations can sway things.

officially 10 people killed, unofficially thousands arrested, relocated, beaten and many missing :(

It never ceases to amaze and frustrate me how some nations can turn a blind eye and in some cases give guarded support to pariah regimes like the odious bunch of thugs that currently preside over the oppressed people of Burma.
Russia and China are cut from the same cloth as the conveniently myopic African nations that are propping up Mugabi in Zimbabwe.
IMHO of course.

On Monday, an anti-war march will be banned from entering Westminster square. Which country is cracking down on political protests again?

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Originally Posted by TOgoFASTER

If there was oil there

Good amounts of both oil and natural gas seem to be there.

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A major investor in Burma is the French oil company Total, (sponsors of the WRC Citroen team). here is a link to their site explaining their situation: http://burma.total.com/en/news/p_5_4.htm usual PR goobledygook and spin.
quote "By promoting responsible behavior, our local teams can serve as a model for business and political leaders looking for ways to address the country's human rights issues."

US oil company Chevron is also a major player in the gas project, despite US sanctions and their response is basically the same as Total. That is any replacement companies would come from China or India and be less likely to be commited to helping the locals......

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Originally Posted by SOD

On Monday, an anti-war march will be banned from entering Westminster square. Which country is cracking down on political protests again?

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Which country is a brutal regime. Which country is worried about terrorists using protests to get closer to important buildings and attack?

I think that the Chinese and Russians are not so stupid as to rush in an get involved in another countries affairs, unlike that muppet Bush. That's just my opinion, I am not having a go at anyone on this forum. The US president is claimed to be the leader of the free world, (as they say so many times on tv), so why hasn't Bush instigated something ? Not enough oil for you Mr Bush ? Oh well, just having a rant, don't take it too seriously.

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Originally Posted by cossie16

A major investor in Burma is the French oil company Total, (sponsors of the WRC Citroen team). here is a link to their site explaining their situation: http://burma.total.com/en/news/p_5_4.htm usual PR goobledygook and spin.
quote "By promoting responsible behavior, our local teams can serve as a model for business and political leaders looking for ways to address the country's human rights issues."

US oil company Chevron is also a major player in the gas project, despite US sanctions and their response is basically the same as Total. That is any replacement companies would come from China or India and be less likely to be commited to helping the locals......

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Nice meaningless mantra... thanks for passing that on.

What kind of labor did they knowingly allow to build their pipelines? One paid an out of court settlement revolving around those humane labor practices used by their Myanmar partners.
There's the human rights PR BS vs. profit in a nutshell.

Cut and paste from earlier link I posted from here.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...eaths-cen.html

Other companies that have invested in Myanmar's natural gas industry include Nippon Oil of Japan, Thailand's state-controlled oil company PTTEP and Malaysia's state-owned oil company Petronas. Indian, South Korean and Chinese firms are also involved in natural gas exploration off Myanmar's shores, and are currently vying for multi-billion-dollar projects.

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Originally Posted by TOgoFASTER

Nice meaningless mantra... thanks for passing that on.

What kind of labor did they knowingly allow to build their pipelines? One paid an out of court settlement revolving around those humane labor practices used by their Myanmar partners.
There's the human rights PR BS vs. profit in a nutshell.

Cut and paste from earlier link I posted from here.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...eaths-cen.html

Other companies that have invested in Myanmar's natural gas industry include Nippon Oil of Japan, Thailand's state-controlled oil company PTTEP and Malaysia's state-owned oil company Petronas. Indian, South Korean and Chinese firms are also involved in natural gas exploration off Myanmar's shores, and are currently vying for multi-billion-dollar projects.

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Sorry Togofaster, I didn't read your earlier post and the link you provided otherwise I would not have posted my link. Sorry if it came across as me defending these companies, I'm certainly not and I must use the sarcasm smilie more often!
I think the point remains the same, whilst there is huge profits to be made, who cares about human rights!!

No cossie I fully understood your meaning and I agreed with you.
I just thought there was a need to emphasive the point of these companies and their interworkings with the Myarmar government and where they are from. Plus what they are willing to turn a blind eye to.
I thought it would give a better look into the forces at work and the agenda.

The following is the meaningless mantra I was refering to...
"By promoting responsible behavior, our local teams can serve as a model for business and political leaders looking for ways to address the country's human rights issues."