Alonso back to Renault..........

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Originally Posted by F1MAN2007

Yes it is. It says that he will be leading the team or team leader. But he didn't know that only this is applicable in contract papers (when it becomes on salary) but not on track.

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I thought that McLaren didn't do "those" things? ;) :D

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Originally Posted by tinchote

I thought that McLaren didn't do "those" things? ;) :D

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Do you trust RD? :D

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Originally Posted by pits4me

Seeing Alonso was handed Monaco, everything boils down to what happens in the next six races. Especially how McLaren may penalize Lewis in Turkey.
(1) Turkey
(2) Italy
(3) Belgium
(4) Japan
(5) China
(6) Brasil

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penalize him for what?

The guy is leading the WDC and people here are talking about him needing to cool down, take a back seat, allow alonso the #1 etc. I strongly suspect that if this were anybody but LH, a young black driver, half of these posts and comments wouldn't even exist. Just the vitriol I read here goes way beyond the support of Alonso and into a whole other disturbing undertone.

sorry If I seem to be jumping on you on this post and I am not accusing you of any discriminatory intent, it just seems like LH is being judged on a different standard than the rest of the field. I read comments like RD's Boy, or Hamie boy, or other pseudo racist connotations and just about am fed up of that talk. maybe people need to understand the nexis of some of those statments and realize that they can easily be intepreted as slightly discriminatory. I never crticise drivers based on their origin or heritage and would hope that others could simply argue on merits/demerits rahter than bring in nationality etc.

Back to my original comment. What exactly should the current WDC leader be pepnalized for by his own team?

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Originally Posted by truefan72

....Back to my original comment. What exactly should the current WDC leader be pepnalized for by his own team?

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1) Lewis to his Boss : "Don't ever f***ing do that to me again."

2) Lewis to his Boss : "You can go and f***ing swivel."

Unless this is a communication language inside the team otherwise it was rude to uncle RD. :D

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Originally Posted by tinchote

I certainly think it is not due to FA. McLaren has produced several quick cars in the last few years, with its biggest problem being reliability. Somehow this year they are very reliable, but I really struggle to connect that with any influence from FA.

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By one of the experts and ex team boss of F1 :

"I believe McLaren is giving him a car that's good enough because of what Alonso has brought to the team," (Eddie Jordan)

"So whether he likes to believe it or not, Hamilton has a benefit from Alonso being in the team." (Eddie Jordan)

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

Henderson, I don't think you know our Uncle Ken well enough to understand what he meant.

1. Fousto lives in Tuscon, AZ, ,which is pretty far south.

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Ahh, hah. Making more sense.

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

2. Around the world, Latinos inhabit the tropics.

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Latinos "inhabit" Latin America. Heh.

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

3. In the past he has stated, many times, that he prefers Latino women.

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Heh. Kind of like saying you prefer earth-women. Latin america has everything: asians, native americans, africans, caucasians. But I think I get the point. He believes that if he walks into Rome, he might find little Mexico.

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

4. Fernando Alonso drives for McLaren, which is headquartered in the north, a place you will find relatively few Latinos.

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You would find many, many more latinos in France than in Italy, actually, since France has very open immigration with its former territories in Latin America. Italy doesn't.

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

5. With their headquarters in Italy, Ferrari is the most-southerly based team.

THEREFORE . . .

If FA goes to Ferrari, he will be more in his natural element--in the south--where the overwhelming majority of Latinos live.

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Umm, actually Super Aguri would geographically be the most south based team.

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

What I'm extrapolating from this is that, from a comfort standpoint, Ken thinks Fernando would be better off in at Ferrari because they are more like him. But he was being silly on purpose.

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you ever heard the phrase "garbage in, garbage out"? Some things are better just laughed it, instead of given any kind of serious inquiry.

Serious inquiry? You mean, like, your post? :D

I don't understand, why should BMW be interested in Alonso as they already have two drivers, who might be (and I think they are) as good as the Spaniard. The same goes for Ferrari.

I still can't get over that Toyota option. I'd be really interested to see, what can he do there and can he help the team anyhow :D They can offer Fernando almost anything he wants - lot of money (not the case at Renault) + No.1 driver status (not going to happen at McLaren). They can't give him only one thing - a competitive car. :p : It looks like that unlike Red Bull or Honda, Toyota tries to make their second driver choice as late as possible to keep all the possible options open.

After all, maybe Red Bull signed DC too early? Alonso might find an interesting challenge there to try to help that team closer to the top.

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

This is a very interesting and intrigueing concept. One issue here is whether Kimi would even accept Alonso as "Team Leader" and of course the other issue is that Kimi may actually be the faster driver of the two. So we are talking about a mojor re-shuffle here.

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Well, Hamilton being faster than Alonso while both driving their first year at McLaren, I wouldn't be surprised if Kimi in his second year at Ferrari was faster than Alonso in his first year at Ferrari. It could be a career suicide for Alonso to be beaten by his team mate twice in a row.

IMO the earlier FA leaves McLaren, the better.
Even if FA stops sharing data with LH, it only forces the young man to learn. Who would doubt that LH, with more seasonings, would better FA? And when that day comes, who would doubt that McLaren would focus on LH?

If both LH and FA stays in McLaren, though seems sensible for 2008, FA's career would only go downhill.

RD's decision would be the key. But I seriously doubt RD would let LH go.