McLaren should receive a fine, like I have said. The process of the whole thing seems a bit messed up and unprofessional, however.
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McLaren should receive a fine, like I have said. The process of the whole thing seems a bit messed up and unprofessional, however.
Some interesting comments & news on GrandPrix.com.
About the appeal:
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19470.htmlQuote:
The move buys Ferrari time in which McLaren will continue to be under pressure and painted in a bad light, while at the same time giving the Italian team time to reach agreement with Mike Coughlan and Nigel Stepney in the hope that they can be persuaded to provide more evidence against McLaren. If sufficient evidence existed, Ferrari would already have gone to court.
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19469.htmlQuote:
Stepney also claimed that a number of other disgruntled employees were going to form a breakway team and that it would have been led by Ross Brawn.
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19472.htmlQuote:
The Ferrari board met in Maranello yesterday and discussed the situation regarding Nigel Stepney, Mike Coughlan and McLaren and gave its permission for Jean Todt to "initiate and continue any necessary legal action, in the name of the company, in addition to those legal actions already under way in every legal, civil, criminal, administrative, sporting jurisdiction be it, in Italy or abroad".
It is not clear why this decision required a press statement as normally internal discussions at Ferrari are not made public and it is blatantly obvious that Todt intends to try to prove the Ferrari claims against McLaren in some kind of court.
However, there is also no doubt that the press release adds to the impression that Ferrari is milking this situation for all it is worth.
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19472.htmlQuote:
One thing that is clear is that the current fight is creating a new level of bitterness between the teams - and that cannot be a good thing for F1.
The good news is that the press will be allowed to attend the FIA Court of Appeal and thus much more can be reported about the case. Putting ALL the evidence into the public domain will give everyone a better idea of the real issues in this case. McLaren has scrupulously avoided giving away anything, apparently to ensure that any legal process will not be prejudiced. Ferrari denies leaking information to the Italian media.
Was Brundle there? I thought this was closed to the public and with Brundle being a commentator, would they have invited him?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
I do think it's important that both sides get to ask all the questions they want answered and get to state the points they want to make. It doesn't sound like this happened in the first hearing.
As for Stepney, hasn't Coughlan named him directly in his sworn affidavit? His accusations sound really desperate and not very convincing. The Elvis theory is just as good thanks to Valve!
As for the outcome, if McLaren are found to be guilty and the penalty is deemed to be more severe than a fine, I would suspect that only constructor's points would be in jeopardy. But then, that would be common sense and the FIA is in short supply of common sense! :)
As he says "apparently" there were 75 people in the room, then no, but he obviously knows people who were there.Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
OK, just trying to clear it all up. I would really like to hear some concrete information from someone directly involved with this whole mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
I don't think its got to the concrete stage yet. Nigel Stepney - coming to a bridge support near you soon ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
I bet that wiped the smug smirk off Ron's face :D It had to happen, since nobody but them understands how it is that you can find a team guilty, but not actually punish them.
What I know is that at the end of this spy SAGA, Mclaren will stay in F1 (whatever the penality they may pay or not ) and one of his drivers will win the WDC this year. Tha is is enough for me.
For other things, I am sure F1 or FIA can't afford to ban Mclaren in the F1 unless they want to kick out the sport. The Sport today is a business like business, so taking that kind of decision would be stupid for FIA and for all involved in this sport
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Originally Posted by F1MAN2007
AFTER the season is over...too much revenue is at stake and no way Mclaren gets banned--a symbolic slap on the hand at most if anything....perhaps a harsher penalty after the season is completed (Why? well one cannot turn off the tv AFTER the season is over)
ANd NOTHING imposed for next year :s mokin:
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Originally Posted by DonnieDarco
He told The People that most of the current grid are lucky to be in motorsport's premier formula, saying: "Fifty percent of the grid is made up of useless drivers."
He also explained that Lewis Hamilton has "McLaren in his blood"
"We wanted a driver who was young and fresh, not a recycled driver coming from another team with the habits of another team," concluded Dennis.
That certainly explains Alsono's status on the team and I guess why Kimi, DC, RS and JPM left.... :rolleyes: :p being recycled drivers from another team, no doubt part of the useless fifty percent