The beginning of the end........from WRC!

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Originally Posted by duff

Was this the same Rally Australia in 2000 that I saw? ;)

the first two days were nothing but "parade laps" where every body was fighting to be the slowest to avoid road sweeping... It didnt make for great viewing to me! (Thankyou FIA for the road position rule change)
Plus Colin and Carlos retiring before lunch on day two didn't help.
The last day was exciting though, and at least the guys in slower cars put on a show (Didier and A.Mcrae especially).

But you are right Cossie16 in that at least there were plenty of cars and drivers out in the forests to watch.

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I guess I should have clarified what I meant, the number of manufacturers entered. Wasn't the road position stuff another one of Connoly's great ideas? (sarcasm)
7 different types of cars in the first 11 positions, although Makinen's Mitsubishi was later excluded because of a turbocharger infringement.

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Originally Posted by Isthmus http://paradise.motorsportforum.com/...s/viewpost.gif
If the future of rallying is the changing of the WRC to S2000 cars wich fight every rally with....groupN cars(!), then i stop watching it.
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This is not what i mean! WRC need new rules and must change the organisation totally. The F.I.A. works on the wrong way.

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Originally Posted by DonJippo

Is not going to happen ;)

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I know It´s not going to happen Don :s mokin: but put S2000 in WRC with group N and makes of the WRC cars for example, S2500 or S3000 together with GT3... 10 wrc rallys + 3 new rallys in several countrys every year only for drivers points and there wil be a real World Championship again.
Always the same podium, Loeb - Gronholm - Hirvonen don´t look like that! ;)

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Originally Posted by duff

Was this the same Rally Australia in 2000 that I saw? ;)

the first two days were nothing but "parade laps" where every body was fighting to be the slowest to avoid road sweeping... It didnt make for great viewing to me! (Thankyou FIA for the road position rule change)
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By the way, why road position isn't so important anymore, as it was in 2000 for example? I mean in that rally Australia even the strongest drivers were afraid of sweeping the road, but nowdays being first on the road isn't any problem for the likes Gronholm, Loeb or maybe even Hirvonen.

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Originally Posted by White Sauron

By the way, why road position isn't so important anymore, as it was in 2000 for example? I mean in that rally Australia even the strongest drivers were afraid of sweeping the road, but nowdays being first on the road isn't any problem for the likes Gronholm, Loeb or maybe even Hirvonen.

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nowadays the manufacturers have guys that sweep every km of every stage with brooms, to get the loose stuff out of the way, thus it is not as big of a problem as before, and this is part of the reason of the high costs.

jk :p

It's an interesting point you make though White Sauron

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Originally Posted by White Sauron

By the way, why road position isn't so important anymore, as it was in 2000 for example? I mean in that rally Australia even the strongest drivers were afraid of sweeping the road, but nowdays being first on the road isn't any problem for the likes Gronholm, Loeb or maybe even Hirvonen.

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It is as important as it was in 2000. Today we have more repeated stages and being first in the past meant you were driving first on the road whereas today that's not the case.

Kronos had their nose put out of joint by Citroen and this was well known at the start of the year so am not suprised to see MVD throwing his toys out of the pram and going back to Peugeot. The S2000 207 in an IRC campaign makes more sense for a smaller team like them than a full WRC attack anyway. Witness then winning the 03 ERC with Thiry in the 206WRC.

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Originally Posted by sal

Kronos had their (...) Witness then winning the 03 ERC with Thiry in the 206WRC.

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I had the idea that this Peugeot was from Bozian.

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Originally Posted by JAM

I had the idea that this Peugeot was from Bozian.

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Nope Kronos. In 04 they moved onto the C2 S1600 with less sucesss.....

Van Dalen is the first ho says what a lot of us is thinking! :D :p :

Source http://www.rallye-info.com/forum.asp...2&new=6&page=1

"I read that Marc van Daalen is saying that the WRC is foul, directed by gentlemen who are exaggerated egocentrics""

That is a very mild translation. My translation for
"Éternel optimiste, Van Dalen n'est aujourd'hui pas loin de jeter l'éponge. La faute à « système pourri dirigé par des gens à l'égocentrisme exacerbé. » Selon lui, si les instances fédérales ne prennent pas le taureau par les cornes, la discipline court au « pur suicide. » "
is:
"Always optimistic, now Marc van Dalen isn't far from giving up. The fault is to 'a rotten system controlled by people with an upset egoism' According to him, the federal instances (I don't know what is meant by that, probably FIA, ISC etc.) fail to take initiative. The sport heads to 'pure suicide'"

All this coming from Mr van Dalen who lost his milking cow for this year...why was he so silent last year?