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Mmm...'kayQuote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
How much would 6 foot high electric fences cost to install and run?
How would the farmer get into different fields?
How would people react if our dry stone walls were replaced by horrific fences?
Do you put animal rights ahead of human rights?
Eki- please think before you post.
They could cover the costs by charging more for their products. People will pay if they want to eat, and I believe they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Through gates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
I think we both have rights and should learn to live together,Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
The market dictates the price for meat. Farming is market led not asset led. Farmers only get what the supermarkets are prepared to pay. If farmers in this country asked for more, shops would just get their meat from abroad where it's cheaper. Supermarkets have the power, not farmers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Well then there is gap in your electric fencing, foxes can get through. A fox can get through a closed gate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Exactly, we can live together, but the only sustainable way by controlling fox numbers. Why can't this be through hunting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
That's where the European Union can help. They can make the same rules apply in every member nation and put taxes on products that come outside the EU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Gates can be closed and they can be electrified as well. Even foxes can't walk through closed gates or walls, they don't have any superpowers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Australians have tried to control their fox population by feeding them birth control medication instead of poison. I think that's a nicer method.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Eki- I don't know if you have ever been on a farm, but let me let you from someone that knows. It is impossible to keep foxes off farmland!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
I say they haven't tried hard enough. Like I said, we have foxes here in Finland, but they aren't harmful for farming. Probably because we have to shelter the animals from cold air, and cold air can get through easier than foxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
You can't protect farm animals that live on open fell land.
i think fox hunting should be banned as it is really horrible as i love foxes
The point almost has nothing to do with foxes, lets face it cars kill a lot more foxes than hunts, it could never seriously be considered a form of pest control, anyone saying that is just looking for excuses to justify hunting.
It comes down to killing animals for fun is wrong! We should have been around long enough to grow out of it.