Sailors and Marines to possibly get cash for their stories?

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Originally Posted by Hazell B

No, it isn't :mark:

I'm pretty sure that 22 Troop, or whatever the SAS are called, don't tend to talk much :laugh:

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But we have always known whenever British forces (excluding the SAS and SBS for obvious reasons) working on the waterways on the Iraq/Iran border have been involved in these incidents. We knew when it happened before, and we have now heard about it again. On balance, I very much doubt that there have been other incidents in which British non-special forces have been kidnapped by the Iranians without us knowing. There is no reason for it.

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Originally Posted by Hazell B

It's fact that we don't always get to hear about what happens. I can live with that. So long as I don't feel I'm being fed bull to make me take another war quietly.

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As I have kept saying, I know full well that we don't get to hear everything that happens in conflicts such as this. I am merely pointing out that there are limits to how much can be read into these happenings. I do believe that there are reasons for doubting the official version of the death of David Kelly, for example, but this does not mean that I automatically think that this is a conspiracy too.

and now the MoD has banned servicepeople from selling their stories. Power to the peop.... Errr I mean power to the tabloids!

To suggest this kidnap was a plot by the government, Tony Blair being our leader is absurb to say the least! I think someone's been watching too many movies!

You've asked a few questions, and said this shows that it doesn't add up. BDunnell has answered those questions, which the answers to were common sense to say the least!

Your entitled to think it was staged, but the evidence against that theory far outweighs the fact it was just a kidnapping incident, not a staged kidnapping given the ok by Tony Blair. Some people seem to want to cook up theories and conspiracies for the sake of doing it, adding complications to things.

To say the only facts are what we're told is also a bit silly.

Forgot to actual state my opinion on the actual topic in hand.

I don't see any problems with them selling their stories, as long as it doesn't compromise the situation out there. If your offered 100k to tell your story, and people are interested in hearing your story, and it doesn't put any of the current troops in danger - why not?

Why begrudge someone a one off lump sum when they've been putting their life at risk for our country? It's a bit harsh. We don't begrudge people like Jodie Marsh, or other Kiss and Tell girls, or we don't begrudge John Terry getting 100k A WEEK for playing football, yet someone who risks their life everytime they go to work, people don't like the fact they are trying to make a one off lump sum.

Maybe it's jealousy, but I would do the same in their situation. God I'd even do it for 50k! As long as it doesn't put others in harms way it's fine. I don't think the fact it's harsh on the families who have their family still in war, I'm sure they are happy to see people return home safely. Or do they think they begrudge other families a happy ending, just because their son/daughter is still out on war? I have a friend over there, and I don't think it's wrong to see families celebrating the return of a loved one.

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Originally Posted by raphael123

Forgot to actual state my opinion on the actual topic in hand.

I don't see any problems with them selling their stories, as long as it doesn't compromise the situation out there. If your offered 100k to tell your story, and people are interested in hearing your story, and it doesn't put any of the current troops in danger - why not?

Why begrudge someone a one off lump sum when they've been putting their life at risk for our country? It's a bit harsh. We don't begrudge people like Jodie Marsh, or other Kiss and Tell girls, or we don't begrudge John Terry getting 100k A WEEK for playing football, yet someone who risks their life everytime they go to work, people don't like the fact they are trying to make a one off lump sum.

Maybe it's jealousy, but I would do the same in their situation. God I'd even do it for 50k! As long as it doesn't put others in harms way it's fine. I don't think the fact it's harsh on the families who have their family still in war, I'm sure they are happy to see people return home safely. Or do they think they begrudge other families a happy ending, just because their son/daughter is still out on war? I have a friend over there, and I don't think it's wrong to see families celebrating the return of a loved one.

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As I said, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have a problem with them selling their stories, because, as you say, this sort of thing happens all the time.

However, would you really sell your story in this fashion? I ask because it's all very well telling your story in a way that describes the incident accurately for posterity — hence my lack of objection to people who write serious books about their time in the forces, or their role in particular campaigns — but this is rather different to selling your tale to a tabloid newspaper, or a crappy news-based magazine show on ITV. The view that the MoD put forward about wanting those involved in this situation to tell their own stories is really naive. Do they really think that Faye Turney will have the story of events reproduced in a faithful manner by The Sun, or is it being re-told 'in her own words' in tabloid journalese? My money is on the latter.

For 100k, yes I would :)
And I think Sir Trevor McDonalds show is far from crap :)

I don't begrudge her the fact she's sold her story to The Sun of all tabloids. I think she's done it for the want of money rather than wanting to share her experiences, hence why she's sold it to the Sun, which as you point out, isn't the most reliable source. I would do the same though, so can't critizise her for it.

Trevor Mc is indeed far from being crap. Especially when he does the interview himself, usually it's just him introducing someone else.

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Originally Posted by raphael123

For 100k, yes I would :)
And I think Sir Trevor McDonalds show is far from crap :)

I don't begrudge her the fact she's sold her story to The Sun of all tabloids. I think she's done it for the want of money rather than wanting to share her experiences, hence why she's sold it to the Sun, which as you point out, isn't the most reliable source. I would do the same though, so can't critizise her for it.

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I have to disagree about Tonight With Trevor McDonald. I think it's an absolute joke, but each to their own.

I like the guy, and respect him. He carried out the interview with Faye and I thought it was a pretty good interview. I don't watch his show every week, but whenever I do I tend to enjoy it :)

What would other people do in Faye's situation? Accept the 100k or reject the offer from the Sun and ITV? Just curious? I'm guessing a lot would be dependent on the personal circumstances. If I was a high earner and didn't need 100k, I probably wouldn't be fussed. As things stand I wouldn't think twice about rejecting it.

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Originally Posted by raphael123

What would other people do in Faye's situation? Accept the 100k or reject the offer from the Sun and ITV? Just curious? I'm guessing a lot would be dependent on the personal circumstances. If I was a high earner and didn't need 100k, I probably wouldn't be fussed. As things stand I wouldn't think twice about rejecting it.

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Given her position and the fact that she's very unlikely to be a high earner, I don't think there is any realistic situation where you could turn down £100,000. I don't know her wages but I'd imagine she'd take about 4-5 years to earn that much money, there is no way you can not accept that, especially when you have a family to support.