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Or maybe VW have a faster car, thus the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
This is very likely, but still when in Ford everybody used to say Citroen was faster, nevertheless he achieved some nice results back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
PS: But I forget Loeb in this equation :D
That's Star Wars, he said Star Trek! (Funny though !)Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
VW and Ogier cannot be touched... It is the best car and by far the best driver at the moment, plus they have Latvala to help them with the budget
the disappointing thing is that Citroen have 2 very experienced drivers and they struggle to keep up with the ford duo. Neuville is a very nice surprise i must say... i did not expect him to adapt from the class B-C drivers of the IRC/ERC to WRC that fast....so it is nice.
Citroen cannot expect to be competitive without spending money... and i cannot see this happening this or the next year with their stupid dead WTCC program. So the situation will be very easy for Ogier in the next 2-3 years. We have to wait for Hyundai and also to see if Subaru and Toyota rumours (for the last 5 years) are true... and if Peugeot want a dynamic comeback.
Until the above happen do not expect to see any other champion than Ogier... So all the little girls and kitties in here start preparing your low life existence to hate on him for the next few years for destroying the sport and the other funny stuff you used to diminish Loebs legend all these years...
Now back to france...
Yes, Ogier will be next Loeb who will "destroy" WRC. Even with more competition from Hyunday, possibly others, I don't think anyone will get near his/VW level next 2-3 years perhaps at least
Reduce fiction re malaka. Too much Star Trek.Quote:
Originally Posted by NxOxT
They already did touch them.
Both.
At once.
Last week.
Rally Germany.
and you are forgetting one thing. loeb was winning from the front of the grid in Gravel rallies.. that was not an easy.. he surely is a master. and i think its not about the cars. its the drivers.. citroen were lucky to find good drivers. ogier, neuville all come from citroen.VW are not untouchable i can tell you that.. life is easy at the moment for Ogier. we will see how a master he is to start from the front. cleaning for othere. and end up winning. that is not easy.
Ogier won in 2011 in portugal from the front... the speed is there for sure, but he is not as tidy as Loeb. Only he could achieve that level of perfection and that is the reason he dominated the way he did...Quote:
Originally Posted by andyone
Loeb was not as tidy aswell in the first couple of years, we all remember aswell that Loeb had a few Achilles heels in the early years. He took way too much time to be able to fight in the front in rally's like Finland and Japan, something Ogier seems to have mastered from the beggining, it's all about the learning curve.Quote:
Originally Posted by NxOxT