Alonso of the race

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Originally Posted by AndyL

I think your memory may be a bit selective there. Button was lapping considerably faster than Hamilton for the vast majority of the race, bar a handful of laps after each of Hamilton's pit stops. Check out the race history chart on the FIA web site.

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Yeah, I just looked at them and I stand corrected. But even looking at them there the difference, accounting for Hamilton being in a race with back markers and the likes, tehre wasn't a lot for a lot between them when Hamilton had clear air. But you're right, Button was faster for most of the race. He still doesn't get close to drive of the race though. He should have won. Good to see him up there again though!

Forgot to mention Massa as the biggest donkey for causing a very avoidable accident at the start of the race. Not good enough from a Ferrari driver.

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Originally Posted by wedge

Alonso and Button.

Hamilton for donkey award for wanting to retire after a puncture at the start of the race - even with the benefit of hindsight. What a wimp. :down:

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That is not the first time Hammy has wanted to retire when he has been down in 18th or so...

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Originally Posted by henners88

Who you support is irrelevant to me, its your wording and opinion I respond to. You suggested he simply complained and asked to retire because of his position. That wasn't his explanation after the race and I'm pretty sure you don't have the inside knowledge to prove otherwise. Call it what you will, but trying to mislead people who have all seen the race isn't particulary bright.

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Indeed. There was no suggestion at all that he wanted to retire due to his suggestion, rather the state of his car. His pace was excellent throughout so it's unlikely that he really didn't want to be there.

As much as I dislike Alonso, if he wins the WDC this year it will be very well deserved. He's just got on with it this year, no moaning when the car was less than its best, week in/week out he's brought home the points.

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Originally Posted by henners88

He said the car was handling terrible after the damage from the puncture. It wasn't just a simple puncture as some of you are trying to make out, so let's get a few facts straight there. I'm sure there was an element of frustration in his request but you'd have to be a very calm individual and someone who has never lost their temper to judge him to harshly. Come on now. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

Indeed. There was no suggestion at all that he wanted to retire due to his suggestion, rather the state of his car. His pace was excellent throughout so it's unlikely that he really didn't want to be there.

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I might not be remembering things in correct order but I thought it went thus...

-Lewis got puncture and entered pits on Lap 2.

-While entering pits on Lap 2. Radio played saying we might as well retire. Thats before he has had a new set of tyres and felt if there was any damage. Of course the car feels terrible with a puncture.

-Then on Lap 3 or 4 he radio'd in again saying car feels weird. Then sets a time as fast as leaders.

- Then continues to race hard and battle his way up the field.Albeit not high enough.

So that seems to suggest he was ready to quit before knowing true extent of the damage to his car. Just because he didn't fancy a race amounst HRTs and Marussia's.

I was disappointed to hear this as just last week on the News he stated I can't promise anything except I will never give up. Which he maybe would have had it not been for the Mclaren team.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Who you support is irrelevant to me, its your wording and opinion I respond to. You suggested he simply complained and asked to retire because of his position. That wasn't his explanation after the race and I'm pretty sure you don't have the inside knowledge to prove otherwise. Call it what you will, but trying to mislead people who have all seen the race isn't particulary bright.

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Put your fanboyism aside:

Ever noticed that when ever Hamilton is forced to confront the media after a sh*t race he likes to wear his shades.

Nor is it the first time Hamilton had obviously had to say the right things with the media.

The only credit he gets out of it is that after the pit stop he knuckled down and drove round his damaged car.

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Originally Posted by wedge

his damaged car.

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Which was retired because, ultimately, the team deemed it too dangerous to continue.

Unless you were in the car and could tell by the feel what the damage was, you may want to stick to keyboard tapping! ;)

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Originally Posted by wedge

Ever noticed that when ever Hamilton is forced to confront the media after a sh*t race he likes to wear his shades.

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Ever noticed that when ever a driver is forced to confront the media after a race that they like to wear a watch?

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Which was retired because, ultimately, the team deemed it too dangerous to continue.

Unless you were in the car and could tell by the feel what the damage was, you may want to stick to keyboard tapping! ;)

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I would love to believe it but I'm too cynical to believe what came out of McLaren. It's far too coincidental that with about 10 laps remaining and nothing to salvage from the easy and correct way out would be to retire. I would rather they held than hand up said they wanted to retire and save the car for the next race but then they would incur the wrath of Charlie Whiting/stewards?

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Ever noticed that when ever a driver is forced to confront the media after a race that they like to wear a watch?

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It's another case of Button having qualities that you would wish Hamilton to have - that is putting a brave face on things without hiding behind shades. It's one of those intensely annoying things, much like having a conversation with one who can't leave their phone alone.