Unemployed young

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Most people with fresh university degrees are unemployable. I know from first hand experience. Here's a scenario:

If two candidates come into my office for a job interview as follows:

One is a university graduate with a 5 year degree and no work experience...
One is a high school graduate with 3 years work experience...

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If you don't mind me asking, what line of work are you in? Just curious.

When I finished university I looked for a job at home. I can speak 4 languages and where I live most people aren't even able to speak English haha, so I assumed I had a good chance and that I had little competition. As it turns out I couldn't get a job anywhere, because I didn't have experience.

Unemployed people straight out of university expect a good wage and companies are unwilling to train new people!

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Originally Posted by Drew

companies are unwilling to train new people!

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small companies maybe.
Ever thought of working for a German automotive company? ;) :p

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Most people with fresh university degrees are unemployable. I know from first hand experience. Here's a scenario:

If two candidates come into my office for a job interview as follows:

One is a university graduate with a 5 year degree and no work experience...
One is a high school graduate with 3 years work experience...

I always go for the guy with experience as he normally doesn't need training, is productive immediately and doesn't have a sense of entitlement just because a piece of paper says he is now "qualified".

Most "qualified" people expect me to re-pay their university degrees with higher salaries than my "non-qualified" staff who make the same if not more money for me. Nothing beats experience, especially not a fresh faced snot nose with a piece of wrinkled paper! I normally tell them to use it the next time they go to the toilet :p :

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Surely it depends how relevant the work experience is?

How did the person who went into work straight after high school gain relevant experience without needing to be trained?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

That was one of the 'certain circumstances' I was citing.

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Possible, but you chose the one request that was legitimate for that job.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

small companies maybe.

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Agree, the big ones will take the promising newbies and have them trained for the job.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Most people with fresh university degrees are unemployable. I know from first hand experience. Here's a scenario:

If two candidates come into my office for a job interview as follows:

One is a university graduate with a 5 year degree and no work experience...
One is a high school graduate with 3 years work experience...

I always go for the guy with experience as he normally doesn't need training, is productive immediately and doesn't have a sense of entitlement just because a piece of paper says he is now "qualified".

Most "qualified" people expect me to re-pay their university degrees with higher salaries than my "non-qualified" staff who make the same if not more money for me. Nothing beats experience, especially not a fresh faced snot nose with a piece of wrinkled paper! I normally tell them to use it the next time they go to the toilet :p :

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You have a rather shortsighted employment policy. :down:

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Most people with fresh university degrees are unemployable. I know from first hand experience. Here's a scenario:

If two candidates come into my office for a job interview as follows:

One is a university graduate with a 5 year degree and no work experience...
One is a high school graduate with 3 years work experience...

I always go for the guy with experience as he normally doesn't need training, is productive immediately and doesn't have a sense of entitlement just because a piece of paper says he is now "qualified".

Most "qualified" people expect me to re-pay their university degrees with higher salaries than my "non-qualified" staff who make the same if not more money for me. Nothing beats experience, especially not a fresh faced snot nose with a piece of wrinkled paper! I normally tell them to use it the next time they go to the toilet :p :

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That might work with some professions and at some companies. But many professions require at least a 2 year/Associates degree to even get an interview. At the company I used to be with, at the aerospace division, even applicants for shop floor positions had to have at least an Associates to get an interview. And once you get into certain technical jobs (engineering, for instance), supervision or management, one probably won't even get an interview without a 4 year degree.

From what I read a few months ago, the unemployment rate for those with only a high school diploma is about three times what it is for people who have at least a Bachelor's degree.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

small companies maybe.
Ever thought of working for a German automotive company? ;) :p

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I was talking about the UK, not about Germany ;)

oh of course how silly of me... I forgot there aren't that many large companies left in the UK :andrea: :erm: :arrows: :p

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Originally Posted by ioan

You have a rather shortsighted employment policy. :down:

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Most businesess have shortsighted strategy in general.