The actual bunch of red muppets would not be a loss, au contraire.
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The actual bunch of red muppets would not be a loss, au contraire.
Seriously, it was only the other day I was remarking to a Mate that we hadn't heard Luca's familiar "our rules or bat+ball=home" empty threats for a while.
While I agree with some points (as do others here - we seem a reasonable lot), this now familiar Ferarri bleat is tiresome.
Go on Luca, I dare you, in fact I double dare you!
(There now, when he reads this he will be seriously questioning his manhood, by crikey!)
I am convinced that, in the space of three years, the person who really was ioan has been killed and an imposter has taken his place. Either that or we have witnessed here the results of the world's first successful mind transplant.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Ferrari are really keeping it up with this moaning and crying.
Let them go, F1 will get along just fine without them. If they need F1 for street car development, they are only going to screw themselves. (Not that I think for a second they need F1 for street car development!)
The spin-doctors are at work again. His comments were not meant to deliver an ultimatum. The words "leave" or "ultimatum" were never used during his speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
It is an opportunity to voice some concerns with the concorde agreement coming up. Most teams are on the same page with Luca.
a bit like
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At the weekend, Nico Rosberg said suggestions he could switch from Mercedes to be Fernando Alonso’s 2012 teammate, and that he recently visited Maranello, were “nonsense”.
Spin doctors? Are these not his words?Quote:
Originally Posted by kfzmeister
Many moons ago (back when dinosaurs roamed the earth), I took Basic computing. And one of the first things we learned was conditional statement construction... you know: if/then.Quote:
If Formula 1 still wants Ferrari, [then] it must change and go back to being at the cutting edge of research, while always keeping an eye on costs. We are not in Formula 1 as sponsors, we are constructors.
I'm not trying to paint the guy into a corner. But the only spin would be to suggest that he didn't say what he clearly said, or (even more interesting) that what he said wasn't what he meant. Luca is dipping his toe into Italian politics, so the latter is very possible, I suppose.
I think that the current rules are anti-Ferrari, because they can't use their budget and they can't test, so I can see why he is unhappy. I disagree with his idea of three cars, however. About leaving, once F1 becomes too restricted to the image which Ferrari is chasing they will IMO begin a sportscar effort and may re-brand the F1 team as FIAT or something... won't be cool. Some balance must be found... IMO the rules are made to be good for the new teams and I don't think that this is right...
I disagree, it's not about budgets etc., It's about Montezemolo & co dismantling the great organisation put in place by Jean Todt, Ross Brawn and co. The weird thing is nobody is blaming the drivers like in 2009 despite the fact that the situation is the same as then. Why isn't Alonso criticized for not winning?Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
The rules are the rules and are the same for everyone. If Ferrari can't produce a winning car on their massive budget then that is because they simply aren't good enough. Ferrari's biggest issue is that they have been spoiled for years and now because some of their liberties have been taken away, and rightly so, they aren't happy about it. Ferrari have the knowledge and technical ability to beat anyone. The most experienced and successful of any team on the grid. They of all teams should be able to adapt to the rules but they can't because they were too used to throwing money at a car and trying out a million solutions to find the best one, opposed to doing what smaller teams had to do all along which is survive on a limited budget whilst being extremely innovative. The limited testing is hurting them now because they don't know how to work within any limitations.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
I agree to a return to in season testing but while the rules are the same for everyone, then with Ferrari's experience and history, if they can't adapt to the rules then they don't deserve to be at the top and they certainly don't have anything to complain about.