That would be funny if it wasn't sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
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That would be funny if it wasn't sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
:laugh: classic :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
http://i.imgur.com/T26uN.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
Who will save our bacon?Quote:
Originally Posted by edv
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Originally Posted by race aficionado
Yes, this is a good thing - though long overdue as far as I’m concerned. And I say this not a recent born-again Marxist - thanks to the education I obtained from our distant cousins in Europe during the ‘Eat The Bank’ campaign in the spring of 2009 - but with the experiences of my own ‘enlightenment’ during and after the gulf war (1991). When I enlisted in the service, almost 4 years prior to that event, I was naïve enough to still believe that people in high-level leadership position (aka power) were responsible individuals and knew what they were doing. Unfortunately that notion quickly dissolved once reality reared it’s dreadful head and unveiled what was going on.
Taking an oath and performing the swearing-in ritual of defending the United States “against enemies, foreign and domestic”is one thing; discovering later that you’ve been employed to function as a mercenary for corporations is another. Giving a whole new meaning to the term ‘national interests.’ And yes, that whole escapade was about oil, not reestablishing democracy as some would wish the world to think. For whatever reason, folks back home couldn’t (or wouldn’t, rather) grasp the facts and became agitated when I pointed out the obvious to them after they just got done patting me on the back and telling me ‘job well done.’ In other words, too many people see what they want to see, as long as it comforts them. It’s human nature with its impulse to survive, and to a degree I understand that, since I’m guilty of such traits as well. However sooner or later people should realize it’s not about just them, their own family or particular interests - it’s about everyone who has ever existed, people who are with us at the present, and of course, those who will follow after us when our journey here is done.
I must say that I find that this protest is a bit mixed for me. It’s good in the sense that the people involved - well, here in the US at least - are unprecedented with such a varied composition that covers almost all boundaries with regards to beliefs, race, culture, age, gender, social & political backgrounds and such. Though I feel it should have never been initiated because of our own financial hardships. Especially since so many around the globe have suffered for so long from the very thing we here in the states (and Europe) suddenly find ourselves in defiance of; ruthless and murderous corporate profiteering. Aka Capitalism.
The movements in the 1960’s was primarily about people and the environment, not lack of income, which appears to be the basis of this movement. Let’s hope that us folks in the present can learn from those in the past, and of course, make some progress. And I mean REAL progress… such as co-existing for starters. And you can’t go wrong with that.
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Originally Posted by race aficionado
No, I’m sorry, but you and I know this wasn’t going to happen. Especially with what I read of the remarks from a couple of other Americans. So, if you’ll forgive me, I have a bit more to say…
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Yeah, can you imagine that? Protesting against inequality. Sheesh. These OWS bums are about as worthless as those characters in the 60’s and 70’s crusading against an unpopular war, oppressive bigotry, and unimaginable destruction to the environment. At least these OWS lunatics are not a bad as those baseless fools in the late 18th century who protested against welfare tyranny created by a royal establishment (British Parliament).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Where do these people come from? These people with un-American agendas are unacceptable and can no longer be tolerated. Therefore they should all be IMMEDIATELY deported from this country, so they can never to be heard from again. Ain’t that right Bob?…. Bob??… BOB??!!!
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Actually that one bit has been loosely translated as ‘Workers of the world unite.’ However, from the Communist Manifesto itself, it states:Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
‘Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Working men of all countries unite!’
Indeed We The People do have a world to win, while some misguided few are intent on destroying it and its inhabitants. And that is something We can not allow to happen.
But hey, as they say in the corporate world, ‘It’s nothing personal, it’s just business.’ Right? So in good spirits of the humor that I’ll assume is being associated here, I’ll try to find a suitable slogan for capitalism.
Hmmm…. now let’s see…. oh I know! ‘Arbeit macht Frei’ Why yes, that’s it! We could place that on all those wonderful facilities involved in the arms-trade manufacturing, oil-producing industry and of course, your favorite and mine, the financial institutions. Which would include Wall Street itself.
After all, that slogan worked out pretty good in Auswitch, right?
This might be different in the sense that it affects pocketbooks globally. For the Greek PM to take a different turn, and allow the population to vote on the possible measures that the rest of the world wants is going to be interesting once the results are in. And, of course, if the expert economists are right about the financial fallout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolton Midnight
Personally I’m glad it’s turning out this way.
Yes, communism is the answer! Since that worked out so well the last 100 years :rolleyes:
Oh why silly me, I forgot that we were the 'beacon of liberty'.
Translation: Lenin, Stalin, Mao and such were no better examples of communism that any of our presidents were in the last 40+ years of representing democracy... well democracy without any strings attached that is. Any guesses as to where those strings might lead to? Take a guess.
"Liberty"?! You want to talk about liberty? What system do you think provides more personal liberty, communism or the free market?Quote:
Originally Posted by AAReagles
Oh I get it now, you are one of those "we've never really tried true communism" types. Give me a break. A simple look at human nature will tell you that will never work, people won't work if there's nothing in it for them. Free markets aren't perfect, but they're a hell of a lot better than communism. Only the people that don't want to take responsibilty for their actions screaming "It's not fair!!!" can't see that. Life's hard, get a helmet. I know you'll get all offended now and take pot shots at me. But I'm just being honest.
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Originally Posted by AAReagles
how's all that socialism working out there in the commonwealth??