I`ve sat back, and read this thread in amazement. I would suggest this be the last post on this matter in respect to all those that tragically lost their lives. Our thoughts should remain with the families.
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I`ve sat back, and read this thread in amazement. I would suggest this be the last post on this matter in respect to all those that tragically lost their lives. Our thoughts should remain with the families.
Sorry but no. Just because someone has died, and perhaps especially, we should consider why and what we can learn from it.
Once again NOT you are talking utter ****eQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You know nothing of what happened apart from what these so called no all have said
Colin McRae is a LEGEND and always will be in my eyes
Part of rallying died that day!!!!!!
Your call ( As a moderator I presume) But I disagree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I know there were quite a few people who went to that inquiry, helicopter pilots, and others who had flown with him and all know how good Colin was as a pilot. The thing is we see helicopter joy rides where helicopters take off, fly round and land again. It looks as if that’s all the helicopter can do, when in fact the helicopter that Colin had was much more than a toy and was capable of much more, and well within a safety envelope. When someone is very proficient at something and others who know little about it see that someone perform it can be mind blowing. After a while the onlooker will begin to understand and see the skill involved. Then, it doesn’t become mind blowing and becomes normal.
I know the very area where this happened, I’ve been there and more. There is a very good case for saying if he was higher then whatever happened to the aircraft then it could well have been corrected. The main thing from this enquiry is they don’t know what happened to the craft so they put it down to Colin in the absence of that information. They done the same thing when a military Chinook crashed into the isle of mull, blamed the pilots for flying too low. It took 15 or so years to reverse that. One thing for sure, I have absolutely no doubt, whatever happened to this helicopter the man to correct it, if possible to do so, was flying that craft that very day. Helicopters are made to fly just above the ground, it’s what they do. Further more, the tragic flight ended less than 200 yards from the landing area and that would be normal for the helicopter to be that low at that point as Colin stayed in the edge of the valley. Another thing, for some strange reason wind direction was not mentioned. Colin may well have taken that route over the trees to head into the wind.
Finally to say there was no operational or logistical reasons to fly through the valley is outrageous, they were on a pleasure flight, not a taxi doing a detour to rack up the fair.
Look at this video, you will not believe how fast a helicopter can decelerate and land and this helicopter is less powerful than the type Colin was flying. It only took this pilot about 8 seconds to bring this to a halt, turn the craft and land it. Colin could do that with his eyes shut. You could argue that if anything went wrong, this pilot was trying to land the craft too quickly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq9oMhHZCkM
Here is another one, the same type as Colins. Is this pilot taking too much of a risk. To most people he is, but he’s not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-0ZZFnMyQY&NR=1
What about this one…is the pilot taking unnecessary risks, banking too tight, flying too low. Notice how he lands into the wind, check the wind sock, and if trees were in the road that’s how he would still come in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2KXePvBOeo
I agree with that...Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
I base my assumptions on the reports... none knows what happened, but i guess since they used camera footage from the crash i guess they did not lie about it.
He is a rallying legend...i just wish he acted like one in his personal life as well.
All acidents are avoidable, it's a bit unffair to judge him, Im sure that he was trying as hard as he could to get the people onboard and his son safely on the ground because if I remember correctly the weather was not good.
Amen.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassist
Amen.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassist
Anyone who understand a little bit about aviation knows that you fly an aircraft with a dramatically different respect to safety and safety margins than most other vehicles. For obvious reasons. In the air, specially close to ground, there is just no forgiveness. But it's a recurring factor for a large number of CFITs, that simply the pilot's ambitions outweigh their abilities.
It sounds like many are unaware of the facts. In case details from earlier report should speak for itself:
Colin McRae helicopter crash report | The Sun |Home Scotland|Scottish News
It really does not leave much to be speculated. Although a direct technical pilot error can not be proven to have caused the impact, it is beyond doubt that the pilot flew the aircraft in a manner which left extremely limited chance of recovery from an (the) unexpected event. Being it pilot error, disturbance by passenger or mechanical.
To do so on a solo flight is one thing. With passengers is again a whole different game.
And for that last line alone, I think to revisit these facts is justified, as this is something a lot of people can relate to, and this accident can serve as the necessary reminder.