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Originally Posted by Hondo
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Originally Posted by Hondo
We can agree on that. I have seen the rotten underside of many a profession I once respected. Law, medicine and even the "noble causes" that lead us off to war.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Good. In that case, I hope you would also agree that it is unacceptable to allow those engaged in fighting wars complete carte blanche when it comes to their behaviour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondo
For the most part I agree although I believe that using some of the same tactics of the enemy, back on the enemy is both justified and useful. I'm aware that people are under the impression that I condone with what those soldiers were doing and that's not true. I'm not shocked by it but I am amazed by the number of people who seem to believe things like that don't happen in wars. Well wake up people. Things like that happen in wars, they happen in police departments, they happen in domestic crimes, and, killings aside, they happen in MP expense scandals. Police have, probably since day 1, routinely kept weapons such as a knife or a pistol that they've taken from a criminal in their brief cases in case they killed a suspect they thought was armed that turned out not to be. By the time the coroner gets there, that dead suspect has a gun of knife in his hand or under his body with his prints on it. They are called "throw downs". After that, the old code of silence kicks in as few are willing to rat out their buddies and the ones that might don't have enough faith in the system to ensure their protection. In the case of the military, a scandal such as this could hurt a young officer's career, so he too is willing to try to hush it up. The expense scandal, you didn't have MPs running around ratting out other MPs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
The troopers in Afghanistan don't have a mission, they don't know why they are there, they know the people want them to go, they know their president and commander in chief is an idiot, they know they patrol every day in god awful heat looking for the enemy while knowing the enemy could be that person standing 2 feet away from them and they still wouldn't know. They collect their dead and wounded, never having seen the people that caused it. Some are immature, most are young, all are frustrated and heavily armed. Common sense alone tells you some are going to snap. It just happens. Sometimes they don't kill a civilian, sometimes they just kill themselves.
Like an old Finnish saying goes "water you carry and pour to a well won't stay there".Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondo