You racy tales on another thread suggest otherwise. ;) I'm not asking, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alcatraz
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You racy tales on another thread suggest otherwise. ;) I'm not asking, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alcatraz
No I'm not!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz
And I have not seen another post from that Jerk-off since. :dozey:
Off topic, but Mr Alcatraz's username gave me a great idea to name the band I'm going to form some day: Mr Al Cat & the Ratz. Great name or what?
I'm in two minds about this.
Of course homosexuals should be allowed to serve in the armed forces, BUT I think that ones sexuality should be no one elses business unless you're comfortable sharing and I would expect that prior to this rule being changed, people have probably quite happily served alongside gay/lesbian people and not had a problem with it. Now some bigoted people may EXPECT that someone should reveal their homosexuality which I feel is wrong.
You can change regs and rules all you like but bigots will still be there.
I am all for the rule change but at the same time I can't really see hundreds and thousands of people outing themselves as being homosexual. There has never been any rule about gay footballers for example but only one has ever gone public with being gay. I'm pretty confident there are many other gay footballers out there and their friends and family know. They just don't choose to let everyone know just because they can. I'm not saying the armed forces will be as extreme as the football example but I just can't see the law change making that much difference at all. At the end of the day, if they are good at their job who cares anyway.
I like it. I suggest you do a lot of Sinatra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Off topic, But did you know that Alcatraz means "Pelican" in archaic/Spanish
The first Spaniard to document the island was Juan Manuel de Ayala in 1775,
who charted San Francisco Bay and named the island "La Isla de los Alcatraces," which translates as:
"The Island of the Pelicans,"[4][5][6][7][8][9] from the archaic Spanish alcatraz, "pelican",
a word which was borrowed originally from Arabic: القطرس al-qaṭrās, meaning sea eagle.[10]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcatraz_Island
gee, is everyone done fussing about equal rights to misery??
Personally I believe the "don't ask, dont tell" rule is a good rule.
Never liked people who wear their sexual orientation on their sleeve for everyone to see.
OTOH, when the military found out, the booting out was what i did not like.
And guess what?? IN my limited experience, when they were discovered, and then booted out, the ones getting booted had made some enemies and got the drop kick. Just an excuse for the boot and "to get even" so to speak..
Sometimes surrounded by much drama....sort of like when sex between the srtaights would pop out in the open, people start paying the price (military has all sorts of rules about who you can have sex with). Behind both scenes, there was always something else involved.
The ones who are well thought of, they just continued to ignore them.
I could name two, that everyone figured out were gay. Everyone would sometimes pick on them**, but they had earned their place just like everyone else. One paid the ultimate price, so i later heard.
(**in the grunge, nothing was sacred, even racially insulting names--it was sort of like ok, I call you NN and you call meXX, what are they going to do?? Pull me out to some warm safe place, with better food, or leave me where I might get killed in the next few minutes....duh....or you wanna fight, well hey ok.....)
They must have used a lot of energy trying to hide their orientation and fearing to be discovered. It also made them vulnerable to blackmail. If nobody cared, there wouldn't be an opportunity to blackmail.Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Personally I thought "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was a bag of crap in itself. IMHO when I was in a good number of people decided to "tell" only to get out of the military. I think there were at least a number of them that weren't gay at all, they just wanted out however they could do it.
Overall I think the new policy will just open up a can of worms for legal actions. It will cause all kinds of grief with housing/rooms/barracks situations. It will in effect discriminate against straight men and women in the military unless they are allowed to room together. People that are gay won't be subject to such rules, and it will just irritate the straight people who are usually prohibited from sharing a room or barracks area with the opposite sex.
Now we will have situations such as boot camp where the straight people are forced to shower and such with the gay people. Not a big deal IMO but could you imagine if you forced the staight females to share showers with the straight men?
For many years everyone has known that gay and bisexual people have served in the military, and I don't think the vast majority of people were bothered with it at all. But now we are going to create a situation of distinguishing it as if it were another sex. Before you know it they will have 5 or 6 barracks for staight men, bi men, gay men, staight women, bi women, and all the men wishing they were in the bi womens barracks. ;) (Just checking to see if anyone was still reading, but you get the point)
I hear you bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
You could have otherwise normal women doing things like
http://austindefender.com/blog/wp-co...11jun04p03.jpghttp://woofie2.pixiq.com/files/blog/...ib_370x278.jpg
http://www.infowars.com/images2/iraq/steam.jpg
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/ir...ughraib_cp.jpg
In other sovereign nations. :eek: