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2nd August 2010, 06:35
DanicaFan

Let's not put nationality or race in this. Milka just plain sucks and doesnt belong on the track period!!!
2nd August 2010, 12:33
chuck34

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Originally Posted by glauistean

Milka takes the garbage for Danica the ALSORAN. She gets some decent results alright but that is mostly due to hanging back and letting it all happen up front. Going almost nude was what made her. Not her driving. At least Milka tries and it sickens me that she gets the flack she does because a few right wingers in here bring her nationality to the fore. Ask Dale Coyne and the people he employs what he thinks.

And good for you Jag-Wrrior. You hit the nail on the head.

Another thing is that she stomps like my 5 year old and hopes that someone will stop her. What is she going to do? Another spoiled child like action similar to Castro-neves. Boy, he annoys me more by the week. Pompous little ah.

Her nationality has NOTHING to do with her driving talent. As pretty much everyone has said, her personality is great. And if our dislike of her was about nationality, then we wouldn't be saying that. She plain can't drive. Ask her crew about that. Or better yet, ask Andy Wallace about that. He had to drive with her, and carry her. How many wins in racing does she have? Now take Andy out of the equation, and how many does she have?
2nd August 2010, 15:58
maxmach

Milka does not belong in the IRL if it is to be considered a "professional" league. No matter how nice She is and looks. Implement the 107% rule or whatever percent to do it, then it's not personal.
What I don't understand is CITGO must be somewhat aware of her driving reputation......this is good PR? What if they say .... sponsored PT, and still had Milka as a spoke person. PT drives and talks and delivers, and Milka talks and smiles and explains and .....everybody is happy....no.
2nd August 2010, 16:17
glauistean

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Originally Posted by chuck34

Her nationality has NOTHING to do with her driving talent. As pretty much everyone has said, her personality is great. And if our dislike of her was about nationality, then we wouldn't be saying that. She plain can't drive. Ask her crew about that. Or better yet, ask Andy Wallace about that. He had to drive with her, and carry her. How many wins in racing does she have? Now take Andy out of the equation, and how many does she have?

You and Danica fan must be napping if you think politics was not brought to bear in this very forum by others. Not me. The thread was closed because it was all politics. Sponsor, driver, country president.
2nd August 2010, 17:05
chuck34

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Originally Posted by glauistean

You and Danica fan must be napping if you think politics was not brought to bear in this very forum by others. Not me. The thread was closed because it was all politics. Sponsor, driver, country president.

I seem to recal that thread being about EJ Viso and his sponsor, not Milka. And all about their "ties" to terrorism (I didn't read enough of that to really know what was going on). That's a totally different topic, and has nothing to do with Milka Duno's driving talent. Be honest with yourself, do you really think she has one iota of driving tallent?

I can't speak for everyone, but I know my mind. I'm against her because she is plain and simple not a good driver. Nothing more, nothing less.

Honestly, if this driver's name was Mike Donaldson, and was sponsored by "milk and cookies", I think most of us would have the exact same opinion.
2nd August 2010, 17:48
chuck34

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Originally Posted by Starter

Actually, she is a good driver. She pretty much stays out of people's way as much as possible. She's just not good enough for this level. Many drivers who were ok to pretty good in lower series have failed to make the transition. "King" Hiro being one. He was the Atlantic champ but pretty much couldn't cut it in the bigs. You can name a bunch of others in most any series from F1 on down. Just like some are so so in lower classes, but find a home when they move up.

I agree she stays out of people's way, and good on her for that.

But exactly what level of racing was she good at? I haven't heard of her being good at any level, but maybe I missed one?
2nd August 2010, 19:28
Jag_Warrior

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Originally Posted by chuck34

But exactly what level of racing was she good at? I haven't heard of her being good at any level, but maybe I missed one?

When I first met her she was racing in the Panoz Global Women's GT Series Championship. She placed third in the championship that year. Including Davina Galica and Belinda Endress, this wasn't a powder puff league just made up of part time models or bored, wealthy housewives. Most were legit racers. I think one of the women who was part of the CART Pace Car team also competed at one point. Then Milka won the championship in the Panoz GT Winter Series. And she's the only woman (AFAIK) to have ever won a Ferrari Challenge race.

I'm also not aware of any problems between Milka and Andy Wallace. While Andy did do most of the heavy lifting when they drove together, Milka didn't trash the car, or run into other cars and the wall during her stints. As a GT driver (which is about all a Daytona DP is), Milka has usually proven herself to be more than competent. The results are what they are.

But even with this "defense" of Milka, as I've stated many times before (like before she even started her first IRL race), she's not ready for this level of racing. Someone is going to get hurt or killed! But still, unless one is going to ignore the stats and basic facts, you can't portray Milka as a horrible driver (overall) anymore than you can portray Danica as a horrible IRL driver based on this season alone. Milka's problem is that she is SLOW. She was slow on Day 1 and she's slow now. It hasn't been a secret and she should have never been given a license by the IRL. This foolishness has been going on for 3 seasons now. And STILL, the IRL can't do anything more than come up with some sort of "double, super secret probation"?! What does that even mean? Hell, can you name a season in CART when Paul Tracy WASN'T on probation??? It means nothing! Barnhart is a confirmed idiot. But either Randy "Andy" Bernard grows a set and benches Milka... or this just might be an indication that he cowers down from difficult (necessary) decisions.
2nd August 2010, 21:39
Easy Drifter

They are pretty well stuck with her for the rest of the year. She normally is not such a huge problem on the ovals.
I do agree that IC needs to lift her licence for next year and do it as soon as this season ends so both she and Dale Coyne are not hung out to dry at the last moment.
3rd August 2010, 13:13
chuck34

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

I'm also not aware of any problems between Milka and Andy Wallace. While Andy did do most of the heavy lifting when they drove together, Milka didn't trash the car, or run into other cars and the wall during her stints. As a GT driver (which is about all a Daytona DP is), Milka has usually proven herself to be more than competent. The results are what they are.

There weren't problems per-se between Milka and Andy. I think they got along just fine. The only problem was that Andy had to start every race about 3/4 of a lap down after 1 or 2 laps, and then drive the rest of the race on his own. So much so that Grand-Am put in a minimum time rule for drivers.

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

But even with this "defense" of Milka, as I've stated many times before (like before she even started her first IRL race), she's not ready for this level of racing. Someone is going to get hurt or killed! But still, unless one is going to ignore the stats and basic facts, you can't portray Milka as a horrible driver (overall) anymore than you can portray Danica as a horrible IRL driver based on this season alone. Milka's problem is that she is SLOW. She was slow on Day 1 and she's slow now. It hasn't been a secret and she should have never been given a license by the IRL. This foolishness has been going on for 3 seasons now. And STILL, the IRL can't do anything more than come up with some sort of "double, super secret probation"?! What does that even mean? Hell, can you name a season in CART when Paul Tracy WASN'T on probation??? It means nothing! Barnhart is a confirmed idiot. But either Randy "Andy" Bernard grows a set and benches Milka... or this just might be an indication that he cowers down from difficult (necessary) decisions.

Agreed
3rd August 2010, 23:23
glauistean

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Originally Posted by chuck34

I seem to recal that thread being about EJ Viso and his sponsor, not Milka. And all about their "ties" to terrorism (I didn't read enough of that to really know what was going on). That's a totally different topic, and has nothing to do with Milka Duno's driving talent. Be honest with yourself, do you really think she has one iota of driving tallent?

I can't speak for everyone, but I know my mind. I'm against her because she is plain and simple not a good driver. Nothing more, nothing less.

Honestly, if this driver's name was Mike Donaldson, and was sponsored by "milk and cookies", I think most of us would have the exact same opinion.

Um, where did you get lost Chucky? Terrorism??? Nope, Citgo yes, Chavez, yes, Venezuela yes. You should have read more then you would be better informed.

Personally, I like Milka Duno. She is smart, but, alas not great behind the wheel.
There was a suggestion a little while back that she form a team with Citgo money and get a driver that can race.

I bet I would not be far off with the fact that Citgo pays more to Dale Coyne than any other single sponsor.

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