IndyCar returning to New Hampshire

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23rd June 2010, 00:33
nigelred5

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Originally Posted by MDS

Well, there are certainly some signs pointing to New Hampshire returning to the schedule, apparently there is some beef going on between SMI and the tow officials per local news outlets.
http://www.wmur.com/news/23938743/detail.html

It seems plausible that they are planning on moving the NASCAR date to Kentucky and replacing the June date with an ICS race, or using the IRL event to spread the cost out between three instead of two events.

Also, I haven't heard anything about Baltimore replacing Edmonton. City officials are pressing forward, but Northlands won't be the organizer, it will probably be either Green or Lanigan taking over. Watkins Glen is at the end of its contract, and they have been less than productive about promoting the event.

If Watkins Glen was held on ANY other weekend than 4th of July, I'd be there. Escaping 50+ years of my family's involvement running the local parade and july 4th celebrations is not something I can escape. ;(
23rd June 2010, 00:39
nigelred5

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

The reason they wont go there I think mainly is due to the real bumpy nature of Pocono. IT is a NASCAR track in the eyes of fans, and CART quit going there years ago because I think of the speed on the main straight. Sprint Cup cars are hauling into Corner 1 at 200mph, so one can only imagine the clip a modern Indy Car would be going around this place.

While less than 2 hours from New York City, really it might as well be 6..New Yorkers don't care about racing except if they are in the Ad business.

It's far too bumpy along the main straight. There was also some pretty bad blood between the Mattioli Family and Indycars that has not been forgotten. That and being just about the only only independent track left on the Sprint cup schedule with a NASCAR weekend, let alone two six weeks apart, They (Pocono) aren't doing anything that would jeapordize either weekend.
23rd June 2010, 10:40
Lousada

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

It's far too bumpy along the main straight. There was also some pretty bad blood between the Mattioli Family and Indycars that has not been forgotten. That and being just about the only only independent track left on the Sprint cup schedule with a NASCAR weekend, let alone two six weeks apart, They (Pocono) aren't doing anything that would jeapordize either weekend.

Not to mention the track does not have a full fence. Imagine an Indycar clipping those trees...
23rd June 2010, 14:33
Pat Wiatrowski

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Originally Posted by booger

I see all these new venues and haven't heard a thing about the possibility of RA being back in IC sked. NASCAR Nationwide (the 2nd tier NASCAR) drew about 60k fans on Saturday. We need IC back there too. Comments?

NO!
23rd June 2010, 21:32
Mark in Oshawa

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

It's far too bumpy along the main straight. There was also some pretty bad blood between the Mattioli Family and Indycars that has not been forgotten. That and being just about the only only independent track left on the Sprint cup schedule with a NASCAR weekend, let alone two six weeks apart, They (Pocono) aren't doing anything that would jeapordize either weekend.

Well, the Mattioli's like making money, and the Indycar family they fought with was CART, and they are long dead, so that isnt' the issue. No...the track itself, and the influence NASCAR might have over things would pretty much dictate the Indycars not coming back there.
24th June 2010, 01:20
nigelred5

Too bad Trenton isn't around anymore. That right hand dogleg was unique
24th June 2010, 07:29
Mark in Oshawa

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Too bad Trenton isn't around anymore. That right hand dogleg was unique

I am too young really to remember that...but I wish Nazerath was still around...I loved that track...
24th June 2010, 15:06
Dr. Krogshöj

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

I am too young really to remember that...but I wish Nazerath was still around...I loved that track...

I thought it was still around - the track, that is, minus the facilities. Can anyone from the area provide an update on Nazareth's status? It would be lovely if someone (the Andrettis maybe?) reopened that track.
24th June 2010, 17:14
champcarray

Can someone point me to the track records for CART at NHMS? The speedways website only shows records for series currently racing there.

On a related note, I see that the NASCAR boys are finally lapping faster than the local modified series. IIRC, the modified were averaging 8-10 mph faster than the Winston Cupper were back in 2001. My wife and I found that very amusing. The modifieds were slowed down in '02 with restrictor plates and the COT finally outpaced them in '08 or '09.
24th June 2010, 21:34
Mark in Oshawa

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Originally Posted by champcarray

On a related note, I see that the NASCAR boys are finally lapping faster than the local modified series. IIRC, the modified were averaging 8-10 mph faster than the Winston Cupper were back in 2001. My wife and I found that very amusing. The modifieds were slowed down in '02 with restrictor plates and the COT finally outpaced them in '08 or '09.

Modifieds are faster because they are lighter and have bigger tires and sit lower. Add all that up, and it is no surprise they are quicker on a flat track like New Hampshire.

They are quicker than the Cup boys at Bristol too....

That said, the IRL boys will be chasing the CART lap records, and with less power, I don't see those lap records falling. As for your finding the lap records not being there for series not there now, I am sure someone has a data base of when the IRL did run there, but I think that was in the days of the IRL running the old CART chassis, not this newer formula.

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