Discontent at Ferrari?

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Well, why did he not overtake then - he's 6/10ths quicker isn't he?

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I ask the same question as you mate, besides i'm not an Alonso supporter. In fact I dislike him but he drives for my favorite team Ferrari.

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Originally Posted by Mia 01

The ting is that Alonso wont stop making fuss before he is the official No 1 in the team. Most people her knows this.

This bring tensions.

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There isn't and there won't be any tension, because both Alonso and Massa are very professional, and are only working for bringing and keeping Ferrari on top.

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Originally Posted by pino

There isn't and there won't be any tension, because both Alonso and Massa are very professional, and are only working for bringing and keeping Ferrari on top.

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No, there is tension and there is a lot of it. Ferrari can issue 100 statements and it will not change the reality.

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Originally Posted by Rodster

Sterling Moss chose Fernando and Hamilton as just a few of the drivers on the grid who he classifies as racers and not drivers.

I think Ferrari should think long and hard and keep both of the current drivers because Felipe is as good as any other driver on the grid. The only thing he lacks is what Fernando has and that's a killer instinct.

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The only thing that counts is having drivers that are capable of winning.

What difference does it make if someone is a "racer" or a "driver"? They both win titles. And Stirling Moss - no doubt a racer did not win a title. This is not a criticism either. Its a fact. Further, you talk about "killer instinct"?

Obviously you do not know the history of Moss. He told the truth about an incident VOLUNTARILY and as a result did not win the title in 1958. Definitely not a Hamilton or Alonso type of driver in my reckoning.

I will remind you that in 2008 Massa won more grands prix than Hamilton and had Ferrari not messed up a couple of times - more so than Massa and Hamilton more so than Massa - then the Brazilian would have been champion.

Privately, di Montezemolo should take Alonso aside and ask him if he enjoys being part of Ferrari. If he asnwers affirmatively, he should be told that any more little bitch stunts like he pulled on Sunday would see him suspended by Ferrari.

Naturally it will never happen.

Massa should not have given way to Alonso. He should have held his ground and collided. He has enough political capital to that and then claim as Alonso would, that he did not see the other Ferrari.

It might have cost Ferrari points, but it would have shown Alonso that Massa should not be trifled with.

I think Massa is far more like Moss than either the Spaniard or the Brit.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

You stating Alonso is a whiner? I wont fight you on that. Near as I can figure, he doesn't like anyone challenging him for number one. The Michael Schmacher theory of being the alpha male on a team....

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A load of tosh.

Alonso is a great driver but he is immature and maybe, just maybe, Felipe is going to ring his clock as he did Raikonnens. Never underestimate the Brazilian.

Rosberg is nothing like that silly "alpha male" definition and will continue to thrash Michael Schumacher.

You see, some drivers, like Nico, have strong self-esteem and do not need to cling to car numbers either.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

A load of tosh.

Alonso is a great driver but he is immature and maybe, just maybe, Felipe is going to ring his clock as he did Raikonnens. Never underestimate the Brazilian.

Rosberg is nothing like that silly "alpha male" definition and will continue to thrash Michael Schumacher.

You see, some drivers, like Nico, have strong self-esteem and do not need to cling to car numbers either.

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Rosberg is a class guy. I didn't say he wasn't. Michael tho always made sure he was number one when he had any say about who his teammate was. I believe, doesn't play with others came to mind. Now, in his second go round, he is the elder statesmen, and he knows he isn't going to push Nico around. Nico is after all the son of Keke, who was about as tough a customer as ever stepped in a race car.

I'll go along with Mark on Keke and I saw him up close for a few years.
He was one of a very few who could take it to Gilles.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

No, there is tension and there is a lot of it. Ferrari can issue 100 statements and it will not change the reality.

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And how do you know that ? do you work at Ferrari and can prove it ?

The media had these stories written the day after Alonso signed his Ferrari contract. They were just waiting for an excuse to dust them off. China gave it to them.

Alonso passed his teammate. Oh my god! They must hate each other now! The team will be torn asunder because two people simply can't get along! :rolleyes:

Every time we get two front-running teammates the media roll out the same tired old stories. You can bet your life the first time Button and Hamilton clash on the track we'll be hearing of "tensions" within McLaren shortly after.

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

The media had these stories written the day after Alonso signed his Ferrari contract. They were just waiting for an excuse to dust them off. China gave it to them.

Alonso passed his teammate. Oh my god! They must hate each other now! The team will be torn asunder because two people simply can't get along! :rolleyes:

Every time we get two front-running teammates the media roll out the same tired old stories. You can bet your life the first time Button and Hamilton clash on the track we'll be hearing of "tensions" within McLaren shortly after.

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I agree that there will always be tensions but as a Tifosi, what do you make of the overall state of Ferrari at the moment. Managing team mate rivalries is imperative but is only usually effectively achieved if there is strong management and direction. After some of the recent issues, what's your confidence level or is it unwavering no matter what's happening?