WRC car on TG test track?

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27th February 2007, 07:31
Magnus

This is one of these bneautiful endless discussions ;)
Unless we have access to some advanced programming devices, will will have to wait for the real test to draw any conclusions. We know that:
The WRC is the quicker on slow tracks
The supercar is the quicker on fast one.
Somewhere they change places, and we can never tell exactly att what point (or circuit) that happens.
27th February 2007, 08:17
Daniel

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBARUNORWAY1

But the TG track doesen't have high speed sections

Have you been watching the same top gear that we get in the UK? :confused:
27th February 2007, 08:48
Iskald

Old myth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnus

From http://www.stormloader.com/groupb/index.html
" Henri Toivonen drove an S4 around Estoril, the Portuguese Grand Prix circuit, so quickly that he would have qualified sixth for the 1986 Portuguese Grand Prix."

This is an old story - or call it myth if you like - that never has been officially confirmed. And I certainly don`t believe it for a second. Unless there was pouring rain (or even better, snow...) and fog Toivonens Lancia wouldn`t stand a chance at Estoril against a Formula 1 car. Top speed for F1 at Estoril (even in 86) was above 300 km/h. For the Lancia Delta S4, perhaps 220 km/h. The F1 car reaches speeds of up to or more than 300 km/h at least three times during a lap, and it`s not exactly very slow through corners, either. There is no way Toivonens S4 could have matched that.

The mythbusters should have taken a look into this, because this old story is simply to good to be true...
27th February 2007, 09:39
Flyinglex

For the Lancia Delta S4, perhaps 220 km/h.

Well, it depends on gearbox only.

One thing is to compare Zondas and RS WRC on TGtrack and another to look on them on oninpohja. WRcars should be rebuilded to completely tarmac version to make competition fair.
27th February 2007, 10:03
SubaruNorway

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel

Have you been watching the same top gear that we get in the UK? :confused:

Ok it's fast but i don't think they reach much more than 200kph

Il write a letter refering to this post and then we will see im sure they are willing to try it
27th February 2007, 11:08
turves

Does anyone have any idea of the length of the TG track? We could then get an average speed and would have some idea...
27th February 2007, 11:25
Gard

Agree with Iskald, that Estoril story is just stupid. An F1 would be closer to half the time of the rally car. A WRC car would at best even cars like Porsche GT3 or the likes. These cars are seriously outpaced by F1. Must be something like 10s/km on a normal racing track.
27th February 2007, 11:53
Doon

I wrote an email to them last season and had with no response! but if enough people suggest it.....
27th February 2007, 13:28
Viking

My bet is on.....WRC car :up:

Best time currently is the Koenigsegg CCX (Swedish version of Il Tempo Gigante :D ) at 1.17.6
The closest thing to a rally car must be the Mitsubishi Evo FQ 400 at
1.24.8

A full spec WRC car must be 7 sec faster than the road running Evo or... :rolleyes:
27th February 2007, 13:43
andyg07

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Originally Posted by Gard

Agree with Iskald, that Estoril story is just stupid. An F1 would be closer to half the time of the rally car. A WRC car would at best even cars like Porsche GT3 or the likes. These cars are seriously outpaced by F1. Must be something like 10s/km on a normal racing track.

It is true about the rally car in estoril being only 4 seconds slower than the f1 car. You can see Hannu Mikkola talking about it on the audi channel. The programme its on is called Quattro a rally legend. Check out sky digital channel 884

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