Things change over time. When I were a lad you got your sweets from the Paki's and your dinner from the Chinkeys. We didn't use them to cause offence they were just nicknames, but now they are extremely offensive terms.
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Things change over time. When I were a lad you got your sweets from the Paki's and your dinner from the Chinkeys. We didn't use them to cause offence they were just nicknames, but now they are extremely offensive terms.
Do you not see now that such terms were actually quite demeaning at the time, even though you meant no harm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Maybe he doesn't see the fact three white guys hosting a car show as unhumourous AT ALL. Maybe because if you watch Top Gear for 15 minutes, you realize they are on the show because the three of them have a chemistry that is infectious and only a politically correct moron would refuse to see that there is 3 guys on this show because they fit the role they are being asked to have.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
Women can be on car shows. I have seen 5th gear and they have a woman and she fits in fine, but the show isn't Top Gear. It isn't as infamously funny as Top Gear. You have a show about cars and the culture of hard core care people. How many women would be able to fit the role? How many were available when BBC cast the hosts for the show? Would the show be any better? An honest person would admit that the 3 people hosting Top Gear make the show the international phenomena that it is, and putting a woman in there to feed a quota would be a Joke...
Firstly, I used the word unusual, not unhumorous. Secondly, if it had never occured to him, how come he has written a column on the subject?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Ah, but what about the terms "white boy" and even "Brit". Surely "Brit" is just the same as "Paki" ? It is a shortened version of the country of origin?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
Used in jest, all the terms were fine, but people took them too far and made them an offensive word. I see nothing wrong with the word "chinky" referring to a Chinese meal - do you?
I think both 'chinky' and 'Paki' are unnecessary and offensive. It doesn't matter whether 'Paki' is just the shortened form - it is offensive whereas Brit isn't. There may not be a particular reason for that, but that's the way it is. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
I think it is very different. I've never heard the word Brit used in an aggressive, offensive manner yet whenever I've heard the word 'paki' it's been almost exclusively used in an aggressive, offensive way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
Says who? I don't find anything offensive about abbreviating a name. There aren't connotations connected to it the same way 'boy' is.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
I agree with BBB, it's not the word itself but the way that it's been used in the past...in fact the way that it's still used today. Basically it isn't very nice and is rarely meant in the same way that Brit is. Besides the equivalent is probably Pakistani as someone who is British is called a Brit whereas someone who is Pakistani is called a Pakistani.
Well then you just nailed it. It's about how you use the words, not actually the words themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans