What is Never met a nice South African? I've not heard of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
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What is Never met a nice South African? I've not heard of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
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I've read up on it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Seems to me like satire used to attack the apartheid regime. That is not the same as blacking-up.
It's not satire it's lowbrow South African bashing.
Maybe it seems that way now, and I'm sure it would constitute 'lowbrow South African bashing' if it were to have been written today, but at the time it was no doubt a satirical attack on apartheid South Africa. Spitting Image was a satirical, political comedy show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Why exactly? As long there are no racist overtones then I fail to see what the problem is. And as far it being wrong in Britain, again - you are generalizing completely. Two harmless examples spring instantly to mind -Quote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
1) Little Britain, Bubbles' partner, David Williams in a black fat suit. Harmless fun (you'll probably say its also fat-ist)
2) Harry Enfield's Nelson Mandela.
And black comedians are always taking the mickey out of white people, and most of it is funny and all of it is harmless observational comedy. I fail to see what the difference is.
Couldn't agree more Bezza. It helps them to get into the character and the act is more convincing. If there are racist overtones then it's wrong but I don't mind black comedians poking a bit of fun at white people. I quite like some of Reginald D Hunter's jokes about white man :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
I'm sorry but you're talking crapQuote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
None of the following is satire. It's extremely rude and insulting generalisation at best.
How can the following be satire .....
..... when calling someone from the subcontinent a Pakki (not something I'd say personally) is considered racist?Quote:
No, he's never met a nice South African
And that's not bloody surprising man
'Cause we're a bunch of arrogant s
Who hate black people
No, he's never met a nice South African
And that's not bloody surprising man
'Cause we're a bunch of talentless murderers
Who smell like baboons
No, he's never met a nice South African
And that's not bloody surprising man
'Cause we're a bunch of ignorant loudmouths
With no sense of humour - ha ha
It seems that petty insults and generalisations are fine when it comes to insulting people from a country who's done something as bad as Apartheid. The thing is that's ****ing rich coming from a country that invaded South Africa for gold and diamonds just over a 100 years ago much like the US is meant to have invaded Iraq for oil and who played just as much of a part in the racism that caused so many problems in South Africa as the descendents of the Dutch who are lumped with being at fault.
The biggest mistake South Africa made (other than the whole Apartheid thing which was a darn big mistake) was to be racist towards Black people a bit too long after the kool kids had stopped doing it.
The word 'paki' is an insult used to abuse and deman asian immigrants. The Spitting Image song is a satire targeted at the white ruling class in SA during apartheid. One is ouright bullying, attacking the weak, the other is taking potshots at an oppressive regime. If that vast difference is lot on you then there's no point in even discussing this further.
Nuh uh. You're merely interpreting it in the way which you want to. In Australia for instance Paki is or at least was used as a non-derogatory term a lot in cricket coverage. Of course the Spitting Image song was meant to be directed at the govt of South Africa but it simply doesn't come across like that and isn't written like that. I'm more than happy to discuss this further because it's obvious that you're not bothering to perhaps put yourself in the shoes of a white South African who had nothing to do with Apartheid.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
The song as as irresponsible and as offensive as the Islamic propaganda that seeks to paint all British as BNP types who hate anyone who's not white. If you can't see that......