Universal Health Care Reform in the United States

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

The USA has the best

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No offence but why do you guys always fulfill the stereotype we have of you?

The NHS in the UK is a puzzle sometimes. During the mid-90's especially it was chronically underfunded and was falling apart.

Since Labour came in 1997 funding has increased massively, however while we have seen improvements, we haven't seen the corresponding increase in the quality of car the funding improvements would suggest.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

All these people from countries that have socialized medicine criticizing us in the US who don't want it and yet every day 1000's of people hop on planes around the world to come to the US for healthcare.

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I don't see all that much criticism of healthcare in the US. What I do see criticism of are some of the absurd attitudes expressed in the US about state health services, which are, I have to tell you, wrong.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

The USA has the best healthcare on the planet.....bar none.

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I am aware that you feel that anyone suggesting that the US doesn't have the best (insert anything here) on the planet is a dangerous saboteur who should be locked up at once, but it would be nice occasionally to read a post from you in which you don't feel the need to assert some form of national superiority.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

I have lived in nothing BUT Socialized healthcare, and I wouldn't say it was bad, but too many Americans don't understand it isn't "Free".

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Now this is a very good point.

The US does often lead the way in pioneering and expensive experiemental surgery. But for 99.999% of cases, that's not what they need.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

That's true up to a point, it's not perfect but the level of health care for even the poorest is still relatively high. It's all relative. I've got experience of NHS back when I was working in the UK and we certainly have it better here.

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:up:

Quite appropriate that this page is being advertised by BUPA health insurance. :laugh:

The USA is spending 12% GDP on healthcare and the UK 9%. So who has the worst system here?!

Personal update: In order to keep the thyroid medicine a'coming and the dossage checked for correction I called my doctor's office last Thursday to set up an appointment, the first since no longer having medical insurance. The girl on the phone told me that without insurance, I would have to use another clinic. Same doctor, different staff and physical location. I told her that didn't sound right and asked her to have somebody higher in the food chain call me. Within 15 minutes the doctor's nurse called me back and explained that although the girl was new in the clinic, the policy was correct only for those who would require more than 90 days to pay their bill due to their bookkeeping setups being different between the two locations. I told Mary I'd be paying cash in full at the time of the visit and she informed me that would get me a 35% discount.

End result, she scheduled a doctor's appointment on Monday at 2:15 pm and said if I could swing by anytime before 5:00pm Friday to leave a blood sample, that would speed things along on Monday. I dropped off some blood on Friday, was visiting with the doctor by 2:30pm on Monday and on my way to the pharmacy to pick up my new dosage by 3:00pm.

It still works ok for me.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Wow.

So much ignorance.

All these people from countries that have socialized medicine criticizing us in the US who don't want it and yet every day 1000's of people hop on planes around the world to come to the US for healthcare.

The USA has the best healthcare on the planet.....bar none.

out of the 40 million in the US(estimate) without health insurance about 14 million are Illegals. They can go back from where they came from which in all probability has Universal healhcare.

Another 15-20 million choose not to have Health Insurance by choice. They would rather make payments on a BMW I guess.

The rest still get medical care by law. They just have to pay for it later.

So what is the problem?

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So you have experienced health care in every single country in the world to make the statement that the USA has the best health care in the world?

The USA clearly doesn't have the best education system in the world because I don't think you know the meaning of the word "ignorance" . (Assuming you were educated in the US)