Luca Badoer Finally Gets Ferrari Drive

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Originally Posted by pino

So I am asking you once again, lose your arrogant attitude because I am very very tired of it !

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I have a feeling that you're not alone.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

I have a feeling that you're not alone.

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The problem of ioan is that he demands some sort of factual proof of everyone else, but considers his own opinion to equal facts. That is very close to discussing with a deeply religious person whether god exists or not.

So we end up like this:

member X: MS is only human, he eats, drinks and sihts like the rest of us.

ioan: You have to proove that. Show me unedited footage of him eating. otherwise stop your ignorant bs and leave this forum.

member X: MS did intentionally stop in Monaco during qualifing.

ioan: How can you proove that? IMO he made a mistake.

member X: so he makes mistakes?

ioan: Can you proove that? He doesnt make mistakes.


All in all its frustrating, annoying, stupid and futile. And anyone talking to him -including myself- should only blame themselves. Whats really fukcing annoying is that he makes this forum more and more like a Motorsport Ioan discussion forum.

Why not just ban the guy, is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Please do tell us when and where did Badoer drive the F60.
AFAIK he didn't drive the F60.

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Except he spends his times mainly in the test driver seat, I didn't recall when was Badoer racing F1.

I have the same worries,

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Ferrari have pulled a bit of a blinder here if you ask me.

They have given up development on this years car and have their test pilot out there doing 1000's of laps.

This should stand them in VERY good stead for next year!

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Whether Badoer or whoever tests, is irrelevant. The benefit for next year is non-existant. Lets try to understand this again. Drivers have very little to do with how fast the car is, except for driving it. No matter what they say, if the engineers and aero guys are not up to the task, the car will not be good enough.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

So you really don't think that a car which has finished 14 from 19 starts, driven by the driver who's put more miles on it than anyone else, and has probably driven more miles in an F1 car than anyone else in history is up to the task, despite saying this:

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So much BS.
Badoer has never driven this car. NEVER.
Comprehende?

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So are you saying that it's the car or the driver who's rubbish?

I'm willing to bet that Luca in the first decent drive in his career is likely to outscore Kimi for the remainder of the season. Dare I suggest he might even take a win... that'd be a turn up for the books.

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Dare I suggest you need less booze in your daily intake of "vitamins"

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Originally Posted by ioan

Do you think it's right for a moderator to publicly menace forum members because of his personal views? You believe that such an attitude helps the forum in any way? I highly doubt it.

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Give it a rest.

Pino posted a link which suggests that Luca has driven the car and you were rude and arrogant when you responded to the point where you questioned his knowledge of Itallian :laugh:

Perhaps you might consider showing some respect for others before moaning that people find you rude ;)

Anyway, back to topic. Lets hope that Luca performs better than you expect :)

In regard to a non English source I doubt that any of us is doubtful on someone knowledge on Italian. ;)

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Originally Posted by pino

I am very glad for Luca, and wish him all the best for the race and the rest of the season :up:

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Me too! :up:

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Whether Badoer or whoever tests, is irrelevant. The benefit for next year is non-existant. Lets try to understand this again. Drivers have very little to do with how fast the car is, except for driving it. No matter what they say, if the engineers and aero guys are not up to the task, the car will not be good enough.

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I appreciate what you are saying Garry but the feedback from a driver is still important.

Cars designed purely in a test environment tend to be blindingly fast right up until the point where they have to turn a wheel on a track.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Give it a rest.

Pino posted a link which suggests that Luca has driven the car and you were rude and arrogant when you responded to the point where you questioned his knowledge of Itallian :laugh:

Perhaps you might consider showing some respect for others before moaning that people find you rude ;)

Anyway, back to topic. Lets hope that Luca performs better than you expect :)

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Respect is earned not gifted in my world.

I also posted a link to a source that says he didn't and having closely followed the F60 tests since teh first day the car hit the track I'm sure the only drivers who drove it around a circuit are Felipe and Kimi, and the only other driver who drove it was Gene in a straight line test.

PS: Believe it or not I have good knowledge of Italian, beside other 5 languages that I speak fluently.

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Originally Posted by leopardsleeping

In regard to a non English source I doubt that any of us is doubtful on someone knowledge on Italian. ;)

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But I tend to trust a Pizza spinning Itallian that I know personally to interperet it correctly.

Doesn't mean the article is correct but that it says what it says ;)